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    Controlled burns and private ownership of forests would prevent disastrous burns

    Why There Are So Many Wildfires in California, but Few in the Southeastern United States
    The New York Times recently detailed why the solution to California's megafires begins with ending overzealous fire suppression.
    Jon Miltimore, FEE, 16 Sep 2020

    Though the Times doesn’t mention Baja California, the paper does endorse the Mexican state’s strategy of allowing fires to burn naturally to eliminate vegetation, pointing out that experts attribute the tactic to the more successful fire prevention approach found in the Southeastern United States.

    Scientists who study wildfires agree that allowing forests and grasslands to burn periodically — by, say, intentionally setting smaller fires under controlled conditions — can be a more effective way to clear out vegetation. In Ponderosa pine forests, for instance, low-level fire can nurture ecosystems and help prevent destructive large-scale fires from breaking out.

    This already occurs in the Southeastern United States, where officials use prescribed fires to burn millions of acres each year. While the region still sees destructive blazes — like Tennessee’s drought-fueled Great Smoky Mountains fires in 2016, which killed at least 14 people — experts credit the use of controlled burns with sparing many Southeastern communities from fire damage.

    Contrary to Western states, “fire is widely accepted as a tool for land management in the Southeast,” fire scientist Crystal Kolden told the Times. This is in stark contrast to California, where just 50,000 acres were intentionally burned in 2017. (As a point of reference, academics estimate between 4.4 million and 11.8 million acres of forest burned annually in prehistoric California.)

    The truth is federal agencies are much better at enforcing regulations than providing meaningful land stewardship. This is one of inherent problems when lands are owned collectively. As FEE’s Webb Beard has observed, echoing Aristotle, when something is owned by everyone, it is effectively owned by no one. The incentive to maintain or improve it is removed because these decision-makers do not benefit from prudent stewardship, and often do benefit from imprudent exploitation, neglect, and virtue-signaling but counterproductive “protection.”

    This is why many economists see property rights as a solution to federal land mismanagement. When individuals own something, they have incentive to maintain it and protect it effectively, evidenced by the strong record of private property owners who have turned around threatened ecosystems.

    “Ted Turner and buffalo ranchers brought the buffalo population back from the brink of extinction because of property rights. Fishermen almost fished the population of British Columbia halibut into extinction, and property rights brought their population back,” Beard wrote. “In many regions of Africa, trophy hunting helps to keep populations of certain animals from dipping to extinction levels and helps to fund conservation.”

    If you’re wondering why you rarely hear of wildfires ravaging Texas, consider this fact: 95 percent of Texas’ land mass is privately owned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Why There Are So Many Wildfires in California, but Few in the Southeastern United States
    … If you’re wondering why you rarely hear of wildfires ravaging Texas, consider this fact: 95 percent of Texas’ land mass is privately owned. …
    Texas has had some very bad wildfires, including as recently as 2018.

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    Just like Australia, disinformation is thriving during the US fire crisis

    isinformation successfully obscured the real causes of Australia’s catastrophic bushfire season. Now the same thing is happening around me, as I report on a disastrous wildfire season in the American west.

    In both countries, the response to a pandemic is also being complicated by disinformation, as conspiracy theorists refuse isolation, refuse masks, and ready themselves to refuse vaccines. ...
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    Meanwhile in the real world (where real world = anywhere in the domain outside ex-stinker daydreaming) _

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    For the full and enlightening article please click on the link

    https://www.mining-technology.com/ne...ver-1500-jobs/

    and according to the poll

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    Looks like fellow investors faired fared much more positive than myself the eternal optimist.
    Well sometimes I am carried away by facts like covid-19 despite the writings on the wall claiming Scomo and team are doing ok!

    Source: Mining-Technology yesterday: 18-09-20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blunderbuss View Post
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    Angus Taylor says Australia has the world's largest carbon capture and storage project. Here's what he's not saying

    Federal Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction Angus Taylor has been spruiking carbon capture and storage technology this week as part of the Federal Government's push to overhaul clean energy investment in Australia.

    The Government plans to expand the mandates of the Australian Renewable Energy Agency and the Clean Energy Corporation to fund new and emerging low-emissions technologies like carbon capture and storage — technologies that may help extend the life of some coal and gas-fired power plants — ahead of wind and solar. ...

    But when questioned about the reliability of carbon capture and storage, Minister Taylor has repeated the claim that Australia has the biggest carbon capture and storage project in the world, as evidence that the technology is working.

    "Let's be clear, carbon capture and storage is already working. We've got it working in Australia, we've got the biggest project in the world in Australia," he said.

    And he's correct that we have the world's biggest carbon capture and storage project.

    But here's what he's not saying.

    Failed carbon capture cost millions of tonnes of emissions ...

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    Not a problem chief, ex - stinkers have plenty of time to wait

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    Full article here:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-...-2050/12682714

    Source: ABC news yesterday 20-09-20
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    Scott Morrison’s three hundred year climate plan is a dark moment for Australia

    ... “Gas has chosen itself, because as yet there has been nothing that has been presented which meets the goals that we have which is reliability and the firming capability for renewables to meet the gap that will be created”

    It’s a lie, and an important one. Several years ago, AGL proposed a plan to replace Liddell’s capacity with a mixture of gas, wind and battery storage. A UTS study went a step further, proposing a fully zero emissions replacement, including demand-side response. Most recently, AEMO’s assessment found there was sufficient existing and proposed capacity to fully meet reliability requirements – no new machines needed at all. Morrison immediately began walking back the ‘1,000 megawatt’ figure, but confusingly insisted there was still a ‘250 megawatts’ gap, despite that also contradicting the market operator’s advice.

    Will the government’s new gas-fired power station keep shrinking in size? Will it be 100 megawatts next week, and 10 the week after, until it finally reaches parity with the reality: that we should have precisely zero megawatts of new fossil fuels on the grid? The messages have been worse than mixed – they’ve been weird, confusing, contradictory and far from reassuring.
    What it all means

    When Morrison says ‘gas chose itself’, it makes perfect sense. There was never any doubt that those who most loudly profess to be ‘technology neutral’ are scrambling for a euphemistic way of dismissing the urgency of climate action. Liddell is the first long-forewarned coal shutdown on Australia’s grid, and the eye-opening mess that is unfolding before our eyes forecasts the same process of bluster and repetition of the word ‘reliability’, instead of simple, effective climate policy that allows planners, investors and communities to forge ahead. Gas is choosing itself: it is the only fossil fuel left that hasn’t lost 100% of its public support and investability. There is no other hydrocarbon left to choose, and the future pathway of continued fossil fuel reliance and ultra-high emissions is linked inextricably to the growth of fossil gas. ...

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    John Stossel:

    The massive, deadly wildfires in America's West are caused by climate change,” smirks California governor Gavin Newsom. In reality, bad forest management and excessive regulation are bigger causes.

    "All of this catastrophizing around climate change is a huge distraction,” says Mike Shellenberger, an environmentalist once named a "Hero of the Environment" by Time Magazine.

    "Climate change is real," he says, but "it's not the end of the world. It's not our most serious environmental problem."

    California warmed 3 degrees over the last half-century, but Shellenberger notes: "You could’ve had this amount of warming and not had these fires. The reason we know that is because the forests that were well-managed have survived the megafires."

    Well managed forests like the one at Shaver Lake, California, maintained by Southern California Edison, have survived the blazes. In that forest, the utility company conducted "prescribed burns" to get rid of tinder that creates big out-of-control fires, and they created "fire breaks" — swaths of forest that are made sparse, so big fires die off when they hit them.

    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    I assume that Stossel and Shellenberger realise that the temperature is not going to stop increasing if we continue to add carbon dioxide to the atmosphere?

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    Texas is hotter and has more forests, but fewer catastrophic fires than California

    Forest Fires Aren’t at Historic Highs in the United States. Not Even Close
    California’s wildfires are a serious matter, but the official record of the United States shows forest fires in the US today are far below the annual average in the 1930s and 1940s.
    Jon Miltimore, FEE, 21 Sep 2020

    As I pointed out, it’s not unreasonable to assume that both poor land management and California’s high temperatures and arid climate have played a role in the fires. But California is not the only place in America that experiences high temps and dry weather.

    Texas actually has more forest and higher temperatures than California, but the Lone Star state rarely struggles with fires, perhaps because 95 percent of its land mass is privately owned and these owners act as responsible stewards of the land.

    If climate change was truly the primary culprit of the wildfires, wouldn’t it stand to reason other parts of the US would be suffering similar results? Are there reasons climate change impacts California more than Texas and the Southeast US?

    This brings me to my second point. There’s a perception that today’s fires are historically unprecedented.

    “Even though the U.S. is only halfway through wildfire season, this year is one of the worst in history,” CNBC reported Friday. “Human-caused climate change has made blazes more frequent and intense, especially during extreme heat waves and drought conditions.”

    But, the claim that 2020 is one of the worst in US history is simply not true.

    A news story making such a claim might start by telling readers how many acres of land have burned in the record-setting year. CNBC doesn’t. One also sees a second problem: most of its charts don’t include information prior to 1990.
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    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Fire and Ice - www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2727-5

    Melting Antarctic ice will raise sea level by 2.5 metres – even if Paris climate goals are met, study finds

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    Maybe California is having worse fires than Texas because it's actually hotter at present?
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    And California is hotter than Texas
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