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    Quote Originally Posted by justaknight
    My apologies Intuition, I just got carried away with them youngsters!
    Cheers, mate!
    lol...thanks for sending me that sbs link btw was interesting

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    I ll send you a pm, i dont wanna risk being told off again here!
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    Last night I was playing an $80 table at star city..... A bit up and down... lose a stack.... win it back..... down to 50... back up......

    but as the early morning went on my stack just grew bigger and bigger.... when it got to about 385.... abra cadabra it all disappeared.

    I limped in with A 8 suited in late position.... Button was huge huge stac (about 500/600) and if he entered the pot he always raised to 5 instead of just calling the $2 blind. Every one knew that this $5 bet was effectively a call. Everyone who called th $2 called the 5 bet. Flop comes A 8 7 rainbow. Early-mid position bets $25, I in mid-late position call the 25 bet as does mr big stack button.... everyone else folds.

    Turn.... K and the board is totally Rainbow....1 club, 1 spade, 1 Heart, 1 Diamond so there are no flushes or straights on the board. Early mid position goes all in ~$65 I call immediately.... Big stack paused for a moment before putting out $200. So big decision.

    I decide to run the hand back through my head whilst looking at the board to figure our what he might have.... no flushes no straights...Does he have trips? No no he pretty much always raises preflop with pockets.... Does he have AK? Again no.... he was an aggressive player when he had decent cards preflop so I can't put him on that either

    an A? maybe... but i'd have him beat if just an ace. Maybe he has 2 pair? Well.... I haven't put him on AK so I'm in the box seat there.

    In all variations I saw myself as being in front.... So I pushed all in for 105 on top of the 200. He called right away.

    And sure enough i had made one of my best reads. He turned over K 7 for two pairs but did not beat my two pairs A 8

    Yesss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    River comes ........7

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooo!!!!!!!!!!

    Full house 7's over K's defeat my two pair. Oh how i was frustrated after that hand. Adios Casino!

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    thats coz you were greedy, you must quit when just enough ahead

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    Limping A 8 only leads to trouble (I actually find limping into a pot which seems a no lifer for anyone then someone bets big usually the limp was a tactical manuever in which case limping is acceptable) limping for any matter is incorrect because it depends on luck although it's hard to say unless you are at the table.
    And still, no one has satisfactorily proven, that it isn't opposite day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trent Parker
    I limped in with A 8 suited in late position....
    How many limped ahead of you? If it was say two or fewer, you should probably raise (around the pot). The main object would be to prevent someone behind you (like the button) from entering with a weak hand.

    Button was huge huge stac (about 500/600) and if he entered the pot he always raised to 5 instead of just calling the $2 blind. Every one knew that this $5 bet was effectively a call. Everyone who called th $2 called the 5 bet. Flop comes A 8 7 rainbow. Early-mid position bets $25, I in mid-late position call the 25 bet as does mr big stack button.... everyone else folds.
    It's a pretty strong hand. Few draws, and only the sets beat you. At this point, you should be willing to play for your stack. The call is ok, but I would be inclined to raise enough to commit the shortstack - say raise to $60.

    And sure enough i had made one of my best reads. He turned over K 7 for two pairs but did not beat my two pairs A 8

    River comes ........7

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooo!!!!!!!!!!
    Nasty beat. You just have to suck it up and say nh sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saragossa
    Limping A 8 only leads to trouble
    Another reason it is usually bad to play these types of hands is the structure of the game at Star.

    I believe the maximum buy-in is $80 and the big blind is $2.

    This means everyone starts off with a stack of 40BB deep which is more like a tournament then a cash game.

    Hands like suited connectors, low pairs and Axs need big implied odds to make a profit in the long term.

    If a player makes a standard raise of 3 or 4 times the big blind say $7 he has $73 left so if you call your implied odds are (73/7) about 10/1.

    In the long term you really need implied of odds of about 20/1 I would think.
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    What with the Main Event going on right now, I thought this would be a good time to share a shocker of a bad beat. The victim was Tony Regan, a strong chess player and former WA Champion (long since retired).

    The tournament was a WSOP Main Event qualifier, with $17k packages for the top five and $13k for 6th. It was down to the last 7 players, and they had been playing for hours with many missed chances to knock out the bubble player. Tony had about an average stack.

    One one hand, Tony had AK and got all of his chips in on a flop of AK4. The villain had AJ, but managed to catch a runner-runner straight to seriously damage Tony's stack. A short while later Tony had KhKd and got all in preflop against Jc7h. The flop came down with three clubs and the river Kc was the final cruel blow, and Tony was left with a consolation $2000 thanks to a final toble deal.

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    i was once playing an online freeroll, where the final 10 places were awarded free entry into a monthly million tournament. 3000 ppl entered. I came 44th. the hand that knocked me out:

    I was big blind and checked with pocket 8's. Flop comes 2,7,8 all off-suit, with 5 ppl in the pot. I check (setting a trap), the 3 guys after me check and the 5th guy goes all in. I call. He has A,8. The turn comes an Ace. I figure i've still got this. The river comes another Ace :'(

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    Sounds like u got beaten like a red-headded stepchild.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Tyson, have you been gambling again? Mug's game. I donated $50 to The Treasury Casino last Friday. The friends we had just shared dinner with did likewise.
    Last edited by Basil; 16-12-2009 at 05:09 PM.
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    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    There is no cure for leftism. Its infestation of the host mostly diminishes with age except in the most rabid of specimens.

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    I'm fairly new to poker so I'm not sure I played this optimally.

    I was playing in an online satellite which was giving entry into a big money tournament and I'd already gone through two other satellites to get in this one. Top ten got entry to the deep stacked tournament and 11th would get a cash prize. 28 players were left and I was sitting on third overall and first at the table.

    I get dealt QcQs, UTG folds and I raise 3xBB and it folds around to late position who calls and so does the button, the blinds fold. Flop comes Qh 4d 8s, beautiful. I decide to set a trap since there are no draws, I check late, position raises 2xBB button folds I just call. Turn 2c my opponent was being aggressive so I figure I'll check to him but he checks behind and the river comes 3s, I decide to bet about half the pot he reraises I go all in and he calls. He turns over A5 I'm left as a short stack and wondering why my opponent was even in the pot and Im also thinking about all the ways I could have improved my play. I went out a few hands later when I went all in pre flop with KK vs AA

    Should I have played differently or was I just very unlucky. Considering I was big stack should I have been more aggressive, maybe fired a weak looking continuation bet on the flop? Should I have maybe reraised the first flop bet and should I have bet on the turn, I suppose any bigger pocket pair could have still beat me if they improved, but that seemed unlikely. What made it worse is that my opponent was drawing near dead when the flop came, all he could get was runner runner straight or hit two aces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clueless
    Should I have maybe reraised the first flop bet and should I have bet on the turn,
    I think checking the flop is fair enough, since it is unlikely he has hit the flop, but when he bets I would re-raise there.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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