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    Bishop and knight checkmate

    Many players never meet this, but it's worth knowing, because it could happen next game! Wikipedia, for a change, doesn't do a bad job of explaining it, similar to some of my training positions for the Logan CC Study Group.

    I had to face it this year, and succeeded. Strangely enough, at an Olympiad in 1988, I was preparing to face it against Martin del Campo, but this was in the bad old days of adjournments, and my opponent resigned rather than having to return later.

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    I can't remember having to do this. Not in a comp game anyway.

    Though I did spend some time studying it when going through Muller and Lamprecht's book. They emphasis the final manouvering of the King from the corner of one colour to the other and the 'W' shape the knight manouver in particular.

    Not sure if I could remember how to do it in 50 moves OTB anymore. I prefer to try to not get into pawnless endings instead. At least in endings when I am up materially.
    So einfach wie möglich, aber nicht einfacher - Albert Einstein

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    I was priveleged to witness this in person.

    [Event "AUS-ch"]
    [Site "Melbourne"]
    [Date "2001.12.28"]
    [Round "1.13"]
    [White "Feldman, Vladimir"]
    [Black "Wright, Ian"]
    [Result "0-1"]
    [ECO "E43"]
    [WhiteElo "2346"]
    [BlackElo "2131"]
    [PlyCount "160"]
    [EventDate "2001.12.??"]

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    I've never personally had to win it and due to its scarcity learning it has never been high on my list of priorities - I am working on it every now and then when I have a few moments and hope to get it learned perfectly eventually.

    I did however get a draw in a rapid game I was losing by playing into it hoping (correctly) that my opponent did not know how to win it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    I was priveleged to witness this in person.

    [Event "AUS-ch"]
    [Site "Melbourne"]
    [Date "2001.12.28"]
    [Round "1.13"]
    [White "Feldman, Vladimir"]
    [Black "Wright, Ian"]
    [Result "0-1"]
    [ECO "E43"]
    [WhiteElo "2346"]
    [BlackElo "2131"]
    [PlyCount "160"]
    [EventDate "2001.12.??"]

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    Black made it look easy; well done.

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    Wright's ACF rating was below 2000 at the time. To watch a guy of around my own rating convert that so smoothly against an IM (who probably would have thought himself a chance of getting away with a draw) was quite impressive.

    Former Tasmanian champion Julian Steward once reached a K+2P vs K ending against a sub-1000 strength junior in a rated tournament game. He knighted one pawn, bishoped the other and demonstrated the mate.

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    Hello everyone,

    Have only had to do this once in a tournament game also. Game is a bit scrappy, and I wasted a couple of tempi, but managed to do the mate pretty much by the book.


    Date: 2004
    White: Another
    Black: Macavity
    Result: 0-1
    ECO: A43
    BlackElo: 1979
    PlyCount: 202

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    Take care and God Bless, Macavity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Many players never meet this, but it's worth knowing, because it could happen next game! Wikipedia, for a change, doesn't do a bad job of explaining it, similar to some of my training positions for the Logan CC Study Group.

    I had to face it this year, and succeeded. Strangely enough, at an Olympiad in 1988, I was preparing to face it against Martin del Campo, but this was in the bad old days of adjournments, and my opponent resigned rather than having to return later.

    Some previous games include:

    For some reason I think that Kasparov would play where Morphy did not, he always seem like more agressive player.
    But I love all this read, this is one play, even though one of the most often, that I play so rarely because I can't find myself in it at all. I find it fascinating where you cannot force them, like shown on wiki.
    Currently playing on http://lichess.org and trying out 1.d4 thanks to my fave youtuber via Chessable

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