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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    The only rocking Solaris is doing is sinking like one.
    Market share is irrelevant to this discussion.

    FWIW, the largest installed base of Unix systems is Mac OS X, followed by Solaris, followed by HP-UX.

    Linux is a (non-Unix) kernel and not a Unix system. Live with it.

    GNU/Linux is an operating environment that is not a Unix system. GNU stands for Gnu's Not Unix.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mephistopheles
    GNU stands for Gnu's Not Unix.
    Ah... the ol' self-referential acronym. My favourite is PHP Hypertext Preprocessor.
    So einfach wie möglich, aber nicht einfacher - Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mephistopheles
    Market share is irrelevant to this discussion.
    Actually market share is a very important consideration and for good reasons. If market share is sinking like a stone one has to wonder how long the vendor will be supporting the product. If market share is sinking like a stone one has to wonder if any admins are going to bother acquiring skills in such a product. So if you can't get support from the vendor and can't get guys in house to run it ... not so irrelevant after all.

    Also if your competitors are moving off one flavour of Unix and migrating to another (a non-trivial proposition), or to Wintel for that matter, must give you pause to wonder what's so much better about the other one.
    FWIW, the largest installed base of Unix systems is Mac OS X, followed by Solaris, followed by HP-UX.
    Sounds like bollocks. Got a source?
    Linux is a (non-Unix) kernel and not a Unix system. Live with it.

    GNU/Linux is an operating environment that is not a Unix system. GNU stands for Gnu's Not Unix.
    Never said it was, nitwit.
    Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    Actually market share is a very important consideration and for good reasons. If market share is sinking like a stone one has to wonder how long the vendor will be supporting the product.
    Given that I was not speaking about market share but rather about whether systems were Unix systems or not, market share is indeed irrelevant, my child.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    If market share is sinking like a stone one has to wonder if any admins are going to bother acquiring skills in such a product. So if you can't get support from the vendor and can't get guys in house to run it ... not so irrelevant after all.
    Irrelevant to the point that I was making, my deluded, penguin-worshipping young friend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    Also if your competitors are moving off one flavour of Unix and migrating to another (a non-trivial proposition),
    Migrating from one Unix to another is unlikely - far less so than migrating from Unix to GNU/Linux - regardless of whether the proposition is trivial or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    or to Wintel for that matter,
    ROTFLMAO!!!

    The fact that you are positing migrations from Unix systems to Windows, which is dying an even faster death in the server space than Unix, speaks volumes to how little you understand about the data centre.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    must give you pause to wonder what's so much better about the other one.
    Your post gives me pause to wonder about why anyone would even believe in widespread Unix to Unix migrations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    Sounds like bollocks. Got a source?
    Given that Mac OS X has the number two market share of desktop systems, that desktop systems outnumber server systems by at least an order of magnitude (and, most likely, up to three orders of magnitude) and that Mac OS X is a Unix system, it is evident to all but the dimmest observer that Mac OS X has the largest installed base of all Unix systems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    Never said it was, nitwit.
    Your post seems to indicate that you did not understand that it wasn't.

    Happy to have cleared things up for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mephistopheles
    Given that I was not speaking about market share but rather about whether systems were Unix systems or not, market share is indeed irrelevant, my child.

    Irrelevant to the point that I was making, my deluded, penguin-worshipping young friend.
    You're the one who started comparing them to each other, some rock and some don't, remember? I was just helping you with a useful way to compare them.
    Migrating from one Unix to another is unlikely - far less so than migrating from Unix to GNU/Linux - regardless of whether the proposition is trivial or not.
    Want me to post some case studies for you to educate yourself?
    ROTFLMAO!!!

    The fact that you are positing migrations from Unix systems to Windows, which is dying an even faster death in the server space than Unix, speaks volumes to how little you understand about the data centre.
    I know of a bank who did recently. But wot wuld they no rite


    Your post gives me pause to wonder about why anyone would even believe in widespread Unix to Unix migrations.
    I did not claim "widespread".
    Given that Mac OS X has the number two market share of desktop systems, that desktop systems outnumber server systems by at least an order of magnitude (and, most likely, up to three orders of magnitude) and that Mac OS X is a Unix system, it is evident to all but the dimmest observer that Mac OS X has the largest installed base of all Unix systems.
    Yet you asserted that it was Mac then Solaris then HPUX. Where do you imagine AIX sits?
    Your post seems to indicate that you did not understand that it wasn't.
    Oh really? Which post of mine did that?
    Happy to have cleared things up for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    Ah... the ol' self-referential acronym. My favourite is PHP Hypertext Preprocessor.
    Gregor has a nice recursive acronym for his Scid rewrite SCIDB
    Scidb is a Chess Information Data Base

    Just twisting Scid's "Shane's Chess Information Database" a little
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mephistopheles
    FWIW, the largest installed base of Unix systems is Mac OS X, followed by Solaris, followed by HP-UX.

    Linux is a (non-Unix) kernel and not a Unix system. Live with it.
    Perhaps you should go line up OS X alongside Linux and tell me which is more Unix like ?

    BTW, I booted up Solaris 11 yesterday, and it has a very polished Nautilus/Gnome desktop. But it doesn't come with GCC and i can't get it connected via my usb modem either, so i'm stuck a little about how to do any project testing.

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    one for my good mate phisto

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    I request to be removed from the mac honour roll. I have recently purchased a penguin libre from think penguin. The exchange rate means one can get a pretty good laptop, super practical considering I don't game, for a reasonable price. Also you don't have to buy into Digital restrictions management.
    And still, no one has satisfactorily proven, that it isn't opposite day.

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    Honour Board

    Duggan, Howard (Captain Underpants)
    Gletsos, William
    Jessop, Denis
    Renzies, Elliott (JAK)
    Southpaw Jim
    Sleepless
    Mephistopheles
    bgriffenchop
    Saragossa (leave of absence)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Underpants
    Honour Board

    Duggan, Howard (Captain Underpants)
    Gletsos, William
    Jessop, Denis
    Renzies, Elliott (JAK)
    Southpaw Jim
    Sleepless
    Mephistopheles
    bgriffenchop
    Saragossa (leave of absence)
    PHAT
    Swathe
    Rincewind
    Ian Murray

    I presume this is the list of FIDE Mac Champions.....

    - Kasparov

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    Some vaguely encouraging news about the (non) convergence of iOS and OS X.

    Nice bait and switch by Apple. Fake a handheld device/desktop OS merger.
    Watch microsoft make a hash of Windows 8/Metro/Finito. Sit back a have a laugh.

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    Howie's toys!!!

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    I picked up a battered powerbook with OS X Tiger on it. It's a bit of a crawler compared to Leopard on an Intel C2D, but support for Classic OS is interesting, and i'll have a play with it sometime.

    Anyway - the thing that struck me is every version of OS X up to Snow Leopard
    was a significant improvement on the previous. But Lion (10.7) breaks this pattern... It's just feels like a vague iOS research project to me.

    Does anyone really prefer Lion or Mountain Lion over Snow Leopard ?

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    Anyone lining up for the honour of paying 229 for earphones with the new iphone?
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