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    In yer dreams ...

    Does anyone else here ever have dreams about chess? I don't have many, but most of them are horrible. Typically I'll get beaten by someone I would ordinarily never lose to, either someone I have an overwhelming scoreline against or even an utter novice. Usually this will involve my time simply running away while I sit there powerless to prevent it, copious cheating by my opponent and an illegally large number of opposing pawns parked menacingly on my third rank.

    However a few nights ago my alter-ego enjoyed a form reversal and managed a draw against Peter Leko. I don't remember the exact position but we had castled opposite sides and Leko (Black) had an enormous q-side attack but his Q was parked on h5 and I had a lot of pressure piled up on the g-file, but no actual winning threats. Leko missed that I had a Nxf4 hitting his queen and threatening to take it then sac for a draw before he could checkmate me. He played ...Qd1+ giving up his Q to capture by some minor piece and disrupting my q-side defences, but only had enough attack to force a perpetual with the single tempo left before I forced one myself.

    Leko was disgusted by this result and stormed off (I think this bit was inspired by reading about one of Theos Rippis' opponents doing that in the Asian Cities). Leko was even less impressed when he learned that a movie producer intended to use the game in a chess scene in a major blockbuster, thus exposing to the world at large how he had conceded a draw to such a bunny. He even sent a hired thug after me with the object of forcing me to surrender all records of the game so that it would be as if it had never happened. I was telling the thug not to bother, the game was already all over in the internet and published in Australian Chess, there was no way it could possibly be disposed of. Then I woke up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    Does anyone else here ever have dreams about chess? I don't have many, but most of them are horrible. Typically I'll get beaten by someone I would ordinarily never lose to, either someone I have an overwhelming scoreline against or even an utter novice. Usually this will involve my time simply running away while I sit there powerless to prevent it, copious cheating by my opponent and an illegally large number of opposing pawns parked menacingly on my third rank.

    However a few nights ago my alter-ego enjoyed a form reversal and managed a draw against Peter Leko. I don't remember the exact position but we had castled opposite sides and Leko (Black) had an enormous q-side attack but his Q was parked on h5 and I had a lot of pressure piled up on the g-file, but no actual winning threats. Leko missed that I had a Nxf4 hitting his queen and threatening to take it then sac for a draw before he could checkmate me. He played ...Qd1+ giving up his Q to capture by some minor piece and disrupting my q-side defences, but only had enough attack to force a perpetual with the single tempo left before I forced one myself.

    Leko was disgusted by this result and stormed off (I think this bit was inspired by reading about one of Theos Rippis' opponents doing that in the Asian Cities). Leko was even less impressed when he learned that a movie producer intended to use the game in a chess scene in a major blockbuster, thus exposing to the world at large how he had conceded a draw to such a bunny. He even sent a hired thug after me with the object of forcing me to surrender all records of the game so that it would be as if it had never happened. I was telling the thug not to bother, the game was already all over in the internet and published in Australian Chess, there was no way it could possibly be disposed of. Then I woke up.
    That's awesome, nice to remember it so vividly too. I usually dream of chess upon playing a whole heap of games on the net, so in the past have dreamt a lot about bug, (and lately, suicide chess).. suffice to say I think it detracts somewhat from quality of sleep, hehe. Thanks for sharing anyway, hehe.
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    I hardly ever dream. Dreaming about chess would be the best though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tparker
    I hardly ever dream. Dreaming about chess would be the best though!
    Hehe, not sure I can agree, it makes you somewhat restless I believe. I had some dream last night that involved some characters in Frasier and a dispute over washing or something :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Dickinson
    That's awesome, nice to remember it so vividly too.
    Actually I got the squares the wrong way round when I was describing it before - just mirror-image all the files from my post. I remember other details of the position but not quite enough to recreate it and see how erroneous the analysis was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    However a few nights ago my alter-ego enjoyed a form reversal and managed a draw against Peter Leko. I don't remember the exact position but we had castled opposite sides and Leko (Black) had an enormous q-side attack but his Q was parked on h5 and I had a lot of pressure piled up on the g-file, but no actual winning threats. Leko missed that I had a Nxf4 hitting his queen and threatening to take it then sac for a draw before he could checkmate me. He played ...Qd1+ giving up his Q to capture by some minor piece and disrupting my q-side defences, but only had enough attack to force a perpetual with the single tempo left before I forced one myself.

    Leko was disgusted by this result and stormed off (I think this bit was inspired by reading about one of Theos Rippis' opponents doing that in the Asian Cities). Leko was even less impressed when he learned that a movie producer intended to use the game in a chess scene in a major blockbuster, thus exposing to the world at large how he had conceded a draw to such a bunny. He even sent a hired thug after me with the object of forcing me to surrender all records of the game so that it would be as if it had never happened. I was telling the thug not to bother, the game was already all over in the internet and published in Australian Chess, there was no way it could possibly be disposed of. Then I woke up.
    Actually that dream is quite common.
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    in a dream i am at university late doing an assignment. Logging on to chesskit and making comments about chess. oh hang on..... it's reality!!!
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    Do you dream in colour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arosar
    Do you dream in colour?
    Interestingly, men tend not to recall colour in their dreams unless colour per se is important to the dream itself. Women do recall colour.

    Also, smell is quite rare dreams while acceleration (inner ear balance) related preceptions are common.

    Does anyone have some recent literature on this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Sweeney
    Interestingly, men tend not to recall colour in their dreams unless colour per se is important to the dream itself. Women do recall colour.

    Also, smell is quite rare dreams while acceleration (inner ear balance) related preceptions are common.

    Does anyone have some recent literature on this stuff.
    my most common sensation in dreams is feeling like an alert mind inside a corpse and not being able to get myself to move

    it's as if i'm possessed by another being or force

    perhaps this should be taken to

    "in your nightmares"

    fears,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Sweeney
    Interestingly, men tend not to recall colour in their dreams unless colour per se is important to the dream itself.
    I recall colour without difficulty more or less irrespective of importance. Objects may not have a fixed colour (indeed frequently don't) but even if so I can remember the colour changes pretty well. GM Leko was wearing a medium-green blazer, a dull tan jumper and yellow trousers.

    Also, smell is quite rare dreams while acceleration (inner ear balance) related preceptions are common.
    Offhand, I cannot remember having a single dream involving smell, ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    Does anyone else here ever have dreams about chess? I don't have many, but most of them are horrible. Typically I'll get beaten by someone I would ordinarily never lose to, either someone I have an overwhelming scoreline against
    Aaaaaaaargh! This actually happened IRL tonight, lost to someone I was previously +5=0-0 against and thereby almost certainly lost the club championship I've won outright the past six years in a row. Aaaaaargh!

    (Entirely self-inflicted, I didn't play the man, and gave him the sort of position I knew he was strong in. Stooooooooopid.)

    Anyway I have another distantly chess-related dream, although it's really more golf than chess. I dreamt that I had somehow qualified for an 18-hole playoff in a major golf event (those, such as S.T., who have heard of my dreadful golfing abilities will realise that this is far, far less likely than me drawing with Peter Leko.) Of course I was expecting to be mashed by 25 strokes or so by my quality opponent and was hence very surprised to be heading off to the second tee one up after getting a birdie on the first hole (hey, I guess there's a first time for everything, pity it was while I was asleep.)

    What does this have to do with chess? My opponent was one S. Solomon.

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    The Evanson Gambit!

    Take a look at Ray Kitchen's dream in the latest Australia Chess magazine!

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    More strange dreams.. I was at university to take some exams and I ran into Barry Cox. I was surprised at how old he looked too as I had imagined him to be quite a bit younger. He was telling me how he was also interested in anicent history and symbology. Then while I was sitting in the exam room someone asked me if I wanted to have a haircut. Afterwards, a few people and I were on a bus in Los Angeles but I had to ask them to stop in the middle of the freeway so I could retrieve my car. The driver was reluctant but with the persuasion of Steve Buscemi and Jack Nicholson the driver did stop when a friend noticed my car. We walked back to it only to discover it was the exact model and year but with a different license plate, upon which I woke up.
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