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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyknight
    Alipasha, hi!
    I think you are wrong in that assessment! Scroll up and have a look at Pax's post (15.06.07)
    I assumed alipasha was saying Darryl must be way ahead in terms of Victorian titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    Yes, I was not sure if it was Vic or SA now. He is still listed on the ratings list as SA but seems to appear more often in Vic tournaments so I suspect you are right.

    Wonderfully entertaining player!
    Kevin. He did live in SA for quite awhile even though he mostly played in Victoria. I think he only plays the FIDE time control tournaments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Sertez
    Kevin. He did live in SA for quite awhile even though he mostly played in Victoria. I think he only plays the FIDE time control tournaments.
    Scott
    Adrian Flitney has been playing in the Doeberl Cup for quite some time and he also played in the two Australian Opens here in 2001 and this year, I think. I always assumed he was from South Australia until quite recently when he became a Victorian but that may be wrong. I know that he was a member of the ACTCA, paying his sub. at the Doeberl Cup each year but I'm not sure what the story was behind that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denis_Jessop
    Adrian Flitney has been playing in the Doeberl Cup for quite some time and he also played in the two Australian Opens here in 2001 and this year, I think. I always assumed he was from South Australia until quite recently when he became a Victorian but that may be wrong. I know that he was a member of the ACTCA, paying his sub. at the Doeberl Cup each year but I'm not sure what the story was behind that.

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    Denis. I think even though he lived in SA he would not have been a member of SACA, which costs $1 taken out of the first entry fee payed for the year. He didn't play games here so he wouldn't have been a member. It proves his honesty I guess. He might have been a member in 2004, but I am not sure whether playing the Australian Champion Reserves made him a member. Too complicated.
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    This is the current Tas Champs perpetual trophy. It is usually held by the titleholder between titles (though in the last year having joint champions in different cities messed this up a bit and in the end - although there was intended to be a mid-year transfer - it spent the whole year slumming it in the HICC cupboard.)

    This one goes back to 1974 and will be full in about 2030.

    According to Neville Ledger's book the known precursors of it are:

    * The "Silver King" was purchased by the HCC in 1927 and was to become the permanent property of the first person to win the state title three times from that point. AM Tregear did so in 1932.

    * The "Silver Rook" was its replacement starting 1934 and won by Vince in 1938.

    * The "Neuberger Cup" was donated to the TCA by a Dr Neuberger prior to the 1953 event, to be retained by anyone winning the title three times in a row. Alas for the cup's longevity, this happened immediately.

    * A perpetual trophy eventually containing the names of winners from 1948-1973 (the precursor of the current model) was donated to the TCA by Dr Barry Holmes in the mid-50s. I am unaware of its current whereabouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    Easy, again thanks mostly to Ledger:

    TASMANIAN CHAMPIONS

    1924 Edwin Ingledew
    1925 Edwin Ingledew
    1926 Edwin Ingledew (match)
    1927 Edwin Ingledew
    1928 Arthur Melville Tregear
    1929 Arthur Melville Tregear
    1930 Edwin Ingledew
    1931 T. D. Fillan
    1932 Arthur Melville Tregear
    1933 T. D. Fillan
    1934 Arthur Melville Tregear
    1935 T. D. Fillan
    1936 Oscar Henry Vince
    1937 Oscar Henry Vince
    1938 Oscar Henry Vince
    1943 Dr Frank Phillips (match)*
    1944 Dr Frank Phillips (match)
    1944 Alan Willison (match)
    1948 Oscar Henry Vince
    1949 Oscar Henry Vince
    1950 Karlis Reintals
    1951 Ludwig Bokay
    1952 Karlis Reintals
    1953 Otto Weber
    1954 Otto Weber
    1955 Otto Weber
    1956 Otto Weber
    1957 Otto Weber
    1958 Otto Weber
    1959 Dr Laurence Barry Holmes
    1960 Otto Weber
    1961 Otto Weber
    1962 Otto Weber
    1963 Tadeusz Grocki (subsequently changed name to Ted Grodski)
    1964 Otto Weber
    1965 Richard Neville Ledger
    1966 Otto Weber
    1967 Otto Weber
    1968 Otto Weber
    1969 Robert D. Atkinson
    1970 Robert D. Atkinson
    1971 John Dickens
    1972 Colin Cloudsdale
    1973 Colin Cloudsdale
    1974 Dr Frank Phillips and Stephen C Swift
    1975 S. James Henri
    1976 S. James Henri
    1977 S. James Henri
    1978 Stephen C. Swift
    1979 S. James Henri
    1980 Peter Foong
    1981 Adrian Flitney
    1982 Adrian Flitney
    1983 Adrian Flitney, Peter Wagg, Roy Markovic
    1984 Richard J. B. Hills
    1985 Richard J. B. Hills
    1986 Peter Wagg
    1987 Adrian Flitney
    1988 John Welsh
    1989 Simon C Browne and Michael Lucht
    1990 Ben Fearnley-Sander
    1991 Marcel Rothlisberger
    1992 Julian Steward
    1993 Bradley Stansfield and Simon C Browne
    1994 Fredrik Sandegard
    1995 Alija Premilovac
    1996 Pavel Sakov
    1997 Tim Anderson
    1998 Michael Stubbs
    1999 Pavel Sakov
    2000 Pavel Sakov
    2001 Kevin Bonham
    2002 Kevin Bonham
    2003 Peter Knight
    2004 Charles Chadwick
    2005 Nigel Frame
    2006 Tony Dowden
    2007 Tony Dowden and Peter Knight
    2008 Tony Dowden

    * Neville Ledger notes that Phillips claimed to have played a second match for the title against the same opponent in the same year, also winning it.
    Dr KB, Since there are other Dr's in your list: I am 'Dr' in 2007 and 2008. How about you? Cheers Dr TD

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    Weber Power!

    Incredible Otto!

    1953 Otto Weber
    1954 Otto Weber
    1955 Otto Weber
    1956 Otto Weber
    1957 Otto Weber
    1958 Otto Weber

    Six years in a row! Is this an all Australian record for a state championship?
    Cheers and good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyD
    Dr KB, Since there are other Dr's in your list: I am 'Dr' in 2007 and 2008. How about you? Cheers Dr TD
    Fixed in Tas Champs list.

    I was not yet thus qualified in 2001 or 2002 (finally dawdled across the line in 2003), though I could go through adding qualifications to some of our other records sometime!

    Info on the doctoral status of any other state champs at the time of their title would be appreciated. Dr Holmes was a dentist; I am unsure what Dr Phillips was a doctor of as his study years are indicated in his chess resume simply as "Inactive regarding chess".
    Last edited by Kevin Bonham; 15-06-2008 at 09:36 PM.

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    Hi All,

    Just a quick point Colin Cloudsdale who won Tas Championship in 1972 and 1973 is the current South Australian Chess Champion.

    kindest regards

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    Records updated.

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    non Tassie winners?

    A statistical question, how many times a non -Tasmanian has won the Tourmament?
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    Quote Originally Posted by justaknight
    A statistical question, how many times a non -Tasmanian has won the Tourmament?
    For the Tas Champs there have been six cases where an ineligible player has won the title - four of those =1st and two outright first. But one of those players was an ex-Tasmanian and another was a Tasmanian who had not been in the state long enough:

    1978 Colin Cloudsdale tied with Stephen Swift but despite being a twice-previous State Champion, Cloudsdale "lacked the residential requirements" (Ledger). I do not know what the rules were then but I presume that as now, a player had to be living in Tasmania to win.

    1990 Sven Zeidler (from Wales and briefly visiting the state) tied with Ben Fearnley-Sander.

    1996 Tim Anderson tied with Pavel Sakov but was ineligible for the State Champion title as he had too recently moved here. Anderson remained in the state for a few years and won at his first eligible attempt in 1997.

    2003 Ian Rout (ACT and visiting the state briefly) tied with Peter Knight.

    2004 FM Lim Yee Weng (Malaysia) won tournament outright. Yee Weng was in the state for more than a year, studying law, but because he was not a resident he was not eligible for TCA titles.

    2009 FM Vladimir Smirnov (NSW and visiting the state for the tournament) won tournament outright.

    For the Tasmanian Open there have been numerous interstate and overseas winners. I have now added a full list of Open winners to post 5.
    Last edited by Kevin Bonham; 15-03-2009 at 09:16 PM.

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    Thanks Kev, I really appreciate your answering my question!
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    Kevin. You have Bradley Stansfield recognised as the youngest winner of the Tas Champs at 16 in 1989 in the first post, but he is not listed as Tas Champ in 1989 in the list in the 4th post. Browne and Lucht are, while Stansfield is listed as winning in 1993 with Browne.
    Scott

    P.S. I was looking at the list having confused Peter Knight with Peter Lucas mentioned junior rapid tournament results, to see when Lucas had won the title.

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