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    Quote Originally Posted by qpawn
    3. Actually come up with sort of argument about Jesus and God that MAKES SENSE.
    Prove the value of rationalism to me (religious, secular or otherwise) and then we can talk. Until then, I'll continue to regard modernity as a half-dead philosophical project ...
    "People with guns don't understand. That's why they get guns. Too many misunderstandings." - Jerry Seinfeld, The Little Kicks

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Xie
    When I post this thread I knew I will receive a lot of troubles and questions, but I still post it anyway, why? I guess it was my nature, I don’t want to post it (because no one likes troubles), but there is something inside of me to encouragers me to post it.
    Maybe Matthew 28:19?

    Good on you anyway George, you probably won't get a lot of converts around here but continue doing what you think is right, Respect.
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    I guess we do need more God-fearing people. It will make this world a better place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    In other words, business as normal for at least the past 10,000 years.
    That was my feeling. In fact (given that xtianity is basically a European religion) when the black death was going around in the 14th century and 1/3 of the population of Europe was wiped out I think there was probably even a stronger case for conversion based on fear of the apocalypse.

    On balance the last 100 years have been pretty good for Europeans and their decendents (even with two 2 significant wars) and if we are careful and base our decisions on reason and logic we might even see out the next 100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arosar
    I once saw him actually thank God in one of his acceptance speeches after winning another tournament.
    Thanked God for what specifically?
    So what's your excuse? For running like the devil's chasing you?

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    George, as a fellow believer I admire you boldness.
    Be faithful to what you are called to regardless of the cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EGOR
    George, as a fellow believer I admire you boldness.
    Be faithful to what you are called to regardless of the cost.
    EGOR
    Oh yes, everyone stop what you are doing and admire those who are in the majority and speak out.
    So what's your excuse? For running like the devil's chasing you?

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    Oh yes, everyone stop what you are doing and admire those who are in the majority and speak out.
    This makes no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EGOR
    This makes no sense.
    My thoughts exactly.
    So what's your excuse? For running like the devil's chasing you?

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    My thoughts exactly.
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    Goughfather:

    Prove the value of rationalism to me (religious, secular or otherwise) and then we can talk. Until then, I'll continue to regard modernity as a half-dead philosophical project ...

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    Goughfather? What a suspicious name? Surely it has heathen overtones. I will send my inquisitors to your house now to surmise if you are a servant of the devil. You will be hanged from a pole by your wrists for five days. If you clunk it you are innocent. If you confess you are burned at the stake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Xie
    World global warming - an unstoppable threat!

    Science cannot save the world, in face, Science encourage young people go to party! (?)
    It is science that has been warning about the dangers of global warming for the last 20 years, and it is from science (if anywhere) that the solutions will come.

    If you believe that God will solve global warming, maybe you are right. But He will do it through the hard work and inspiration of scientists and economists, not by some miracle.

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    OK, here's a story on scripture:

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    An elderly woman had just returned to her home from an evening of Church services when she was startled by an intruder.

    She caught the man in the act of robbing her home of its valuables and yelled, "Stop! Acts 2:38! Repent and be baptized, in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins may be forgiven."


    The burglar stopped in his tracks. The woman calmly called the police and explained what she had done.

    As the officer cuffed the man to take him in, he asked the burglar, "Why did you just stand there? All the old lady did was yell a scripture to you."

    "Scripture?" replied the burglar. "She said she had an Ax and two 38's!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by qpawn
    Goughfather:

    Prove the value of rationalism to me (religious, secular or otherwise) and then we can talk. Until then, I'll continue to regard modernity as a half-dead philosophical project ...

    ********

    Goughfather? What a suspicious name? Surely it has heathen overtones. I will send my inquisitors to your house now to surmise if you are a servant of the devil. You will be hanged from a pole by your wrists for five days. If you clunk it you are innocent. If you confess you are burned at the stake.
    I not sure how that even begins to constitute a valid argument. You can't establish the legitimacy of one philosophical stream of thought by comparing it to another. It would be just like suggesting that John Howard is a great humanitarian because Adolf Hitler was so terrible.
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    Looks like I am under fire.

    I think I should add this in my thread: ‘If you disagree with me, please ignore this message.’

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