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    Isn't love for the Tromp really a manifestation of hatred for the QB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bergil
    Gunner, the game doesn't play?

    Which is a pity as I was looking forward to being gobsmacked by your brilliancy!
    Fixled.
    Copyright Frosty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    Isn't love for the Tromp really a manifestation of hatred for the QB?
    No. It gives of itself, and the forces speak in its honour at the end of every game.
    There is no cure for leftism. Its infestation of the host mostly diminishes with age except in the most rabid of specimens.

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    Good win, HD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner Duggan
    Is it The Tromp!?

    Or is it a brilliancy?

    No!, it's Howard Duggan doing both!

    Before you shriek about Black's 8...f6, the comp has black + as a result of it, and question mark's white's sacrifice. After all, sacrificing is one thing - proving it is quite another. I don't know if the sac was proven, but the counter-play was hellish!

    Play through slowly and watch in awe

    [Event "Lidums U/1600"]
    [Date "2007.07.07"]
    [Round "3"]
    [White "Howard"]
    [Black "A. Nother"]
    [Result "1-0"]

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    10 consecutive moves either taking, checking or threatening to take! Woo-hoo! In the final position, white has time to leave his own knight en prise and ignore a whole black rook. Breath-taking !!!


    Hey weren't you playing James Griggs?
    A 14 year old?
    Rated 1171???
    Still a win is a win I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner Duggan
    [Event "Lidums U/1600"]
    [Date "2007.07.07"]
    [Round "3"]
    [White "Howard"]
    [Black "A. Nother"]
    [Result "1-0"]

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    A very good attack that would do credit to a higher-rated player.

    The Stonewall formation is usually dubious if Black hasn't played ...d5 to cede the e5 outpost for your N.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mischa
    Hey weren't you playing James Griggs? A 14 year old? Rated 1171???
    Yes. I was hoping that his name wouldn't be mentioned, as is etiquette with juniors. Odd. I thought you might have known that

    Quote Originally Posted by Mischa
    Still a win is a win I guess.
    Mischa, I'm overwhelmed by both your gracious congratulations on my achievement in the thread (an excellent result for me) and your acknowledgment of this fine game.

    You've done very well all 'round.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    A very good attack that would do credit to a higher-rated player...
    Thanks Jon!
    There is no cure for leftism. Its infestation of the host mostly diminishes with age except in the most rabid of specimens.

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    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner Duggan
    So may options, but do any of them work? e3 still hangs, but can't be taken because Qe2 puts the entire white army on patrol.
    Well done Howard - on the game and the tournament.

    This game is great entertainment value - but can you take me through the Nxe3 Qe2 white army on patrol thing.

    I reckon black can just hold it together with cxd4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine
    Well done Howard - on the game and the tournament.
    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine
    This game is great entertainment value
    Aye!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine
    ... but can you take me through the Nxe3, Qe2 white army on patrol thing
    No!

    a) My suggestion is not the best move. And Nxe3 is a good move for black.
    b) The other options are complicated. I don't understand them, anyway.
    c) I claim OTB terrorism as justification
    Last edited by Basil; 10-07-2007 at 09:04 PM.
    There is no cure for leftism. Its infestation of the host mostly diminishes with age except in the most rabid of specimens.

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    I think I answered a rhetorical question.

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    Tromped up charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    Isn't love for the Tromp really a manifestation of hatred for the QB?
    Jono, i believe it runs deeper than that.
    I believe that it is the epitomied, embodied, manifestation of the sheer unbridled primordial inclination towards the very hatred of life itself.
    A blight on the collective human character if you will.

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    There is a very amusing reply possible to 10...Nxe3, which is 11.Nxg5!? If the queen is taken, Black is mated.

    The key line seems to be 11...Nf6 12.Bg6+ Kf8 13.Qf3 cxd4 14.Qxb7!! (oh yeah!) after which the position is an absolute mess. Maybe White doesn't objectively have enough for the piece but in practical play ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    There is a very amusing reply possible to 10...Nxe3, which is 11.Nxg5!? If the queen is taken, Black is mated.
    Didn't see that at first. Lovely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    Maybe White doesn't objectively have enough for the piece but in practical play ...
    I think it is a position where the better player is going to win - no matter which colour they are.

    The actual continuation was great attacking play.

    I just thought the analysis dismissed Nxe3 a little too readily - as far as I can see it holds, but I'm sure a better player would probably still win it from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine
    I just thought the analysis dismissed Nxe3 a little too readily ...
    You're (quite)* correct. It did. *excuse redundancy for effect

    I've had a good look now and there are quite a few continuations. White has all the fun in most, but with best play black can wriggle successfully and eventually come out ahead. In one crazy variation, black wins with a denuded king on the 4th!

    The calculation for those variations at the board is well beyond me - I think I'll just stick to a 'bit of barry' and and psychological terrorism

    For the time being, anyway.
    There is no cure for leftism. Its infestation of the host mostly diminishes with age except in the most rabid of specimens.

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