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    Quote Originally Posted by greg
    Maybe the former, but I have to say I have been very, very depressed about chess since losing to Chandler in Brisbane.
    We will fix this. I will organise something. How are you fix for this Friday? I was with our Lebo mate at the Macquarie Hotel and he threatened to do a bit of karaoke - a sing along with a tranny to boot!

    I'll get you in shape before the tournament. Don't worry.

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    Hey, thanks Frosty and Arosar!

    Edit: Errr, I hope that doesn't mean you'll fix me up with a tranny, AR.
    Last edited by Rhubarb; 08-02-2006 at 07:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg
    Edit: Errr, I hope that doesn't mean you'll fix me up with a tranny, AR.
    Heavens to Murgatroyd ... exit ... stage left!
    “As you perhaps know, I haven't always been a Christian. I didn't go to religion to make me happy. I always knew a bottle of port would do that. If you want a religion to make you feel really comfortable, I certainly don't recommend Christianity.” -- C.S.Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg
    Why? Do you know something about defamation law that I don't?
    No, I don't.

    But even if there was something "unusual", I would still regard Leonid's title much higher than ZIM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg
    Edit: Errr, I hope that doesn't mean you'll fix me up with a tranny, AR.
    Nope, but I tell you what, s/he didn't mind a bit of a squeeze. Not shy I tell you. The Lebo was blushing!

    AR

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    Quote Originally Posted by drug
    No, I don't.

    But even if there was something "unusual", I would still regard Leonid's title much higher than ZIM.
    Yes, I would definitely agree with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drug
    It could be a good idea to give a "prize" each year to the weakest FM and IM.Whom would people nominate for the 2005 award?
    What, sort of like the Golden Raspberry awards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonid Sandler
    Hello Brian,
    About my international master title.I have scored 3 im norms.In 1994 I have won Australian masters Championship with result of 9,5 points from 11 games,in the same year I have scored 6,5 points out of 11 games in Gunadarma University international tournament in Indonesia and if my memory serves me right it was category 6 or 7 tournament.In 1996 I have scored my last norm in Chess Olympiad in Erevan with 7 points from 10 games with performance rating of 2459 in Category 4 tournament.
    Didn't you beat a some GM 9.5/10 games or something. Help us remember.
    Last edited by PHAT; 08-02-2006 at 09:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter_parr
    23 of the 26 Australians rated above 1400 who competed in the Gold Coast were internationally titled just after the events in 1999.

    Low rated club players simply drew with each other scoring 50% for the FIDE Master title.
    Can anyone provide a link or guesswork/pointer where the results/crosstable of the above is at ?

    thanks

    ps and while you are at it the previous Olympiad - ta

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    Quote Originally Posted by themovingman
    ps and while you are at it the previous Olympiad - ta
    http://www.olimpbase.org/

    has statistics of all Olympiads.

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    And you can get crosstables of the last few Zonals from the twic newsletters (http://www.chesscenter.com.twic/twic.html) if you are prepared to do a bit of digging (google helps).

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    Oceanic zt Gold Coast  1999
    
                                     1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   
      1 Feldman,Vladimir      2330  +1  -½  +1  -½  -1  +½  -½  +1  -1   7.0/9
                                    23  3   12  2   9   5   4   6   7   
      2 Smerdon,David         2173  +½  -1  +1  +½  -0  +1  -½  -½  +1   6.0/9
                                    13  6   21  1   5   11  7   3   10  
      3 Berezina,Irina        2230  -1  +½  -½  +0  -½  +1  -1  +½  +1   6.0/9
                                    4   1   10  5   14  17  12  2   9   
      4 Dive,Russell John     2440  +0  -1  +1  -½  +1  -½  +½  -½  +1   6.0/9
                                    3   23  19  13  16  9   1   14  5   
      5 Johansen,Darryl K     2490  +1  -½  +½  -1  +1  -½  +1  +0  -0   5.5/9
                                    16  22  9   3   2   1   10  7   4   
      6 Depasquale,Chris      2302  -½  +0  -1  +½  -½  +1  +1  -0  +1   5.5/9
                                    20  2   11  14  15  8   9   1   21  
      7 Wohl,Aleksandar H     2440  -½  +1  -1  +0  -½  +1  +½  -1  +0   5.5/9
                                    15  18  22  9   13  12  2   5   1   
      8 Kulashko,Aleksei      2396  +1  -0  +½  -0  +1  -0  +1  -1  +1   5.5/9
                                    19  9   16  12  20  6   25  18  14  
      9 Reilly,Tim            2258  +1  +1  -½  -1  +0  +½  -0  +1  -0   5.0/9
                                    26  8   5   7   1   4   6   13  3   
     10 Laird,Craig           2300  +1  -½  +½  -0  +1  +1  -0  -1  -0   5.0/9
                                    24  12  3   21  18  13  5   16  2   
     11 Saw,Geoffrey          2205  +½  -½  +0  -1  +1  -0  +½  -1  +½   5.0/9
                                    21  13  6   23  17  2   16  20  15  
     12 Zhao,Zong Yuan              -1  +½  -0  +1  +1  -0  +0  -½  -½   4.5/9
                                    14  10  1   8   21  7   3   15  17  
     13 Wallace,John Paul     2360  -½  +½  -1  +½  +½  -0  +1  -0  +½   4.5/9
                                    2   11  18  4   7   10  21  9   19  
     14 Levi,Eddy             2245  +0  -1  +½  -½  +½  -½  +1  +½  -0   4.5/9
                                    12  24  17  6   3   21  19  4   8   
     15 Weeks,Manuel William  2245  +½  -0  +1  -½  +½  -½  +½  +½  -½   4.5/9
                                    7   21  20  17  6   16  18  12  11  
     16 Reeves,Tristan        2245  -0  +1  -½  +1  -0  +½  -½  +0  -1   4.5/9
                                    5   25  8   22  4   15  11  10  24  
     17 Tindall,Brett         2250  -0  +1  -½  +½  -0  -0  +1  -1  +½   4.5/9
                                    18  20  14  15  11  3   26  23  12  
     18 Szuveges,Narelle            +1  -0  +0  -1  -0  +1  -½  +0  -1   4.5/9
                                    17  7   13  19  10  24  15  8   25  
     19 Dwyer,Daniel          2186  -0  +1  -0  +0  -1  +1  -0  +1  -½   4.5/9
                                    8   26  4   18  22  23  14  25  13  
     20 Stawski,Nikolai       2045  +½  -0  -0  +1  -0  -1  +1  +0  -1   4.5/9
                                    6   17  15  24  8   25  22  11  26  
     21 Solomon,Stephen J     2435  -½  +1  -0  +1  -0  +½  -0  +1  -0   4.0/9
                                    11  15  2   10  12  14  13  26  6   
     22 Allen,Andrew          2261  -1  +½  +0  -0  +0  -1  -0  +½  +1   4.0/9
                                    25  5   7   16  19  26  20  24  23  
     23 Ilic,Ilija            2115  -0  +0  -1  +0  +1  -0  -1  +0  -0   3.0/9
                                    1   4   25  11  26  19  24  17  22  
     24 Corker,Kerry                -0  +0  -½  -0  +1  -0  +0  -½  +0   2.0/9
                                    10  14  26  20  25  18  23  22  16  
     25 Franks,Clifton              +0  -0  +0  -1  -0  +0  -0  -0  +0   1.0/9
                                    22  16  23  26  24  20  8   19  18  
     26 Parmeshwar,Rajnesh          -0  -0  +½  +0  -0  +0  -0  -0  +0   0.5/9
                                    9   19  24  25  23  22  17  21  20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_Jones
    I am very happy for Australian players to win FIDE titles. In fact I want more aussies to play chess and win titles. If we had 100,000 players and 100 FIDE Grandmasters then I would be over the moon.

    But maybe you are too old, inactive and set in your ways to understand that chess is for everybody and not just for you and your elitist mates!
    Brian you claim I’m too old yet your age is only six months different to mine.

    Of course I understand chess is for everyone – 6 days a week for a third of a century I promote chess to customers in my chess shop in the Sydney CBD.

    My mates in chess range from absolute beginners to World Champions Euwe (who was in my shop) to modern times.

    Of course I would like Australia to have 100 Fide grandmasters (and 100,000 players) – we share the same goals.

    A GM title requires 3 GM norms (over 2600 results etc)
    an IM title requires 3 IM norms (over 2450 results etc)
    an FM title requires 2300 rating.

    A Candidate Master requires 2200 rating.

    These titles would have no meaning if you just give them away to low rated club players.

    There are 19,030 players rated above you on the current FIDE active players list who have no FIDE title yet you call yourself and other club players FIDE masters after scoring 50% against a field containing numerous low rated club players.

    Your idea of giving away FIDE titles to club players is utterly absurd.

    Maybe FIDE could issue certificates for players rated between 2100 and 2200 and call it expert (you would than have an expert certificate) and..

    2000-2100 a FIDE category 1 player
    1900-2000 a FIDE category 2 player etc, etc,

    So every club player would have a certificate – everyone would be happy.

    Think about it Brian – back to basics – what is the meaning of the word “Master”.

    FIDE master titles do not come out of cornflakes packets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter_parr
    FIDE master titles do not come out of cornflakes packets.
    Unless of course Kellogs could be persuaded to sponsor the next zonal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter_parr
    23 of the 26 Australians rated above 1400 who competed in the Gold Coast were internationally titled just after the events in 1999.

    Low rated club players simply drew with each other scoring 50% for the FIDE Master title.
    Regarding the 1999 event, this seems to be somewhat of an exaggeration. eclectic has now posted the crosstable: which of these players do you regard as 'low-rated club players'. Maybe five of the 26 players were rated below 2000 ACF, of these two qualified for the FM title (one didn't apply for the title).

    I repeat 23 of the 26 Australians rated above 1400 (not a misprint -900 rating points below the minimum FIDE level) were internationally titled after the 1999 Zonal and Brian Jones is delighted.
    This is a pretty misleading statement. You make it seem like there were a lot of players around this 1400 mark. Of the 26 players, one was unrated (the Fijian), and I can only see one other who might possibly have been rated below 1400 (I don't have old ACF lists, so don't know for sure).

    I can say for certain that none of the 26 players has an ACF rating today under 1700.

    Don't get me wrong, I think it was a bad move for Oceania to use this format in 1999. The restriction in recent Zonals to a maximum of one IM title and two FM titles have improved matters considerably. But I don't think it helps the argument to exaggerate the facts.
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