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    The Washington Post reports on a law signed by Trump last year — the Justice for Uncompensated Survivors Today Act — that aims to help Jews seek compensation for property lost during the Holocaust.

    I wonder if the Palestinians will also have a law enacted by the USA that will help the Palestinians to also get compensation for what Israel has done to them for 71 years?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.89dfd3f19a54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    I will be checking out this video tomorrow, thanks
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    Ethnic cleansing of Jews in Islamist lands

    The Jews driven out of homes in Arab lands
    The removal of the Jews from the Arab world has been all but ignored, says Tom Gross
    (Foreword by Tom Gross to a new book ‘Uprooted: How 3,000 years of Jewish civilization in the Arab world vanished overnight’ by Lyn Julius. Tom Gross is a former Middle East correspondent for the Sunday Telegraph.)

    In Israel, 160,000 Arabs stayed after the country’s rebirth in 1948 and took Israeli citizenship. (That number is now 1.7 million, representing over 20 per cent of Israel’s population, and Israeli Arabs serve in posts ranging from Supreme Court justices to Israeli diplomats). And when Israel declared independence following the UN partition plan, many of the Palestinian Arabs who left were not pushed out, but departed on the orders of their own leadership so as to stay out of the way when several Arab armies marched in with the aim of wiping out the Jews.

    In sharp contrast, the ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of Jews from the Arab world in the mid-20th century was systematic, absolute and unprovoked.

    There were 38,000 Jews in western Libya before 1945. Now there are none; 47 synagogues are gone and a highway runs through Libya’s main Jewish cemetery. In Algeria, there were 140,000 Jews. Now there are none. In Iraq, there were about 150,000 Jews. Five remain. There were 80,000 Jews in Egypt. Almost all are gone.

    Many Jewish refugees from the Arab world still suffer the trauma of armed men arriving at their door, and being marched away without explanation and without being able to take their possessions.

    Unlike Palestinian refugees who left in smaller numbers (between 1948 and 1951, according to UN statistics, 711,000 Palestinian Arabs left what became Israel, although many historians put the numbers at fewer than this) the 856,000 Jews who were made refugees from Arab countries have never received any proper recognition or international financial help. Instead, there is wilful ignorance. So, for example, in Cairo today, the Swiss, German, Canadian, Dutch, South Korean and Pakistani embassies all occupy the stolen homes of wealthy, expelled Jews. Similar situations exist in some other Arab capitals.

    Adding to the injustice, some Middle East commentators like to propagate the myth that the Jews of the Arab world were never discriminated against or persecuted or attacked.
    “The destructive capacity of the individual, however vicious, is small; of the state, however well-intentioned, almost limitless. Expand the state and that destructive capacity necessarily expands, too, pari passu.”—Paul Johnson, Modern Times, 1983.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    The Jews driven out of homes in Arab lands
    The removal of the Jews from the Arab world has been all but ignored, says Tom Gross
    (Foreword by Tom Gross to a new book ‘Uprooted: How 3,000 years of Jewish civilization in the Arab world vanished overnight’ by Lyn Julius. Tom Gross is a former Middle East correspondent for the Sunday Telegraph.)

    In Israel, 160,000 Arabs stayed after the country’s rebirth in 1948 and took Israeli citizenship. (That number is now 1.7 million, representing over 20 per cent of Israel’s population, and Israeli Arabs serve in posts ranging from Supreme Court justices to Israeli diplomats). And when Israel declared independence following the UN partition plan, many of the Palestinian Arabs who left were not pushed out, but departed on the orders of their own leadership so as to stay out of the way when several Arab armies marched in with the aim of wiping out the Jews.

    In sharp contrast, the ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of Jews from the Arab world in the mid-20th century was systematic, absolute and unprovoked.

    There were 38,000 Jews in western Libya before 1945. Now there are none; 47 synagogues are gone and a highway runs through Libya’s main Jewish cemetery. In Algeria, there were 140,000 Jews. Now there are none. In Iraq, there were about 150,000 Jews. Five remain. There were 80,000 Jews in Egypt. Almost all are gone.

    Many Jewish refugees from the Arab world still suffer the trauma of armed men arriving at their door, and being marched away without explanation and without being able to take their possessions.

    Unlike Palestinian refugees who left in smaller numbers (between 1948 and 1951, according to UN statistics, 711,000 Palestinian Arabs left what became Israel, although many historians put the numbers at fewer than this) the 856,000 Jews who were made refugees from Arab countries have never received any proper recognition or international financial help. Instead, there is wilful ignorance. So, for example, in Cairo today, the Swiss, German, Canadian, Dutch, South Korean and Pakistani embassies all occupy the stolen homes of wealthy, expelled Jews. Similar situations exist in some other Arab capitals.

    Adding to the injustice, some Middle East commentators like to propagate the myth that the Jews of the Arab world were never discriminated against or persecuted or attacked.
    Capa Fan, with this post I, with conditions, agree with you Why, because they are ethnic Jews - a branch of Arabs and they belong in the Arab world in the old Babylon. Of course there are the complications of the politics of non-ethnic Jews that led to the expulsion of ethnic Jews. There was the infamous False Flag event by Jews in Egypt. I have met ex-Moroccan Jews in Australia, they came here via Israel and are Israeli citizens. They loved and miss Morocco - they had Arab culture and were fully accepted until Israeli politics got involved.

    It is solely the European religious Jews settling in now Israel that I object to causing the strife in the Middle East.
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    Bibi can't raise the numbers to form a government after the recent elections, so Israelis are headed back to the polls!

    Analysis: Netanyahu Just Suffered One of the Biggest Losses of His Political Career
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    Bibi can't raise the numbers to form a government after the recent elections, so Israelis are headed back to the polls!
    That they are actually having another election is a bit unusual, as although Netanyahu failed to form a government, nobody else was invited to try, and parliament was dissolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    That they are actually having another election is a bit unusual, as although Netanyahu failed to form a government, nobody else was invited to try, and parliament was dissolved.
    Bibi shut down the Knesset before anyone else was given a chance to try to form a governing coalition. Not that a new coalition was likely to get the numbers without Likud.

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    Israel treats Palestinians in its hospital, Palestinian leaders forbid it

    In Anti-Israel Boycott, Palestine Swears Off Israeli Hospitals — Leaving Its Civilians Untreated
    Luke Rosiak, Western Journal, 31 May 2019

    The Palestinian Authority will prevent its own people from receiving life-saving treatments at Israeli hospitals as part of a boycott aimed at harming Israel.

    The PA, which pays the families of terrorists to reward them for anti-Israel attacks, is angry that Israel started deducting that money from tax revenue that it pays the PA.

    Even pro-Palestinian observers turned their heads at the move, which has sick and vulnerable Palestinians serving as pawns in a game of politics.

    Weeks after the policy went into effect, the PA exempted one of its own politicians from the policy, allowing him to receive treatment at one of Israel’s well-regarded hospitals.

    A critic with an Israeli nonprofit, Nan Jacques Zilberdik, told JNS: “Not only do ordinary Palestinians have to forgo medical care in Israel because the P.A. is adamant about paying high salaries to terrorists, Palestinians also have to witness one of their own leaders getting treatment in a Israeli hospital that for them is out of bounds.

    “Someone should give Rajoub a copy of Orwell’s Animal Farm.”

    Rajoub is receiving medical care in an Israeli facility despite going on TV and calling Palestinians who killed Israelis “heroes,” JNS said.
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    Whatever happened to the Wye River Memorandum?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wye_River_Memorandum

    Political impact in Israel
    The Wye agreement was broadly popular in Israel, with 74% of Israelis supporting the agreement according to early-November polling.[8] However, Prime Minister Netanyahu sensed opposition within his Likud party and delayed a vote of cabinet approval while he sought public assurances from the Clinton administration about the implementation of Wye. Rather than join a national unity government with opposition leader Ehud Barak, Netanyahu tried to assuage Likud hardliners by stopping implementation of Wye in early December over confrontations between Palestinian protesters and Israeli soldiers.[9] Disapproval of Netanyahu's policies from Barak's Labor Party and the Likud right resulted in a vote of no confidence against his government that prompted general elections in May 1999; Barak was victorious and pledged to continue the Israeli–Palestinian peace process.
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    For Israelis the Nakba is a footnote. For Palestinians it's the heart of the conflict
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    To large portions of the Jewish Israeli public, the Nakba was small event — an historical side note. To most Palestinians, on the other hand, it is a huge, exceptionally brutal, and vastly important part of their history. In order to understand why there is such a vast disparity in the way the Nakba is perceived by Israelis and Palestinians, despite very little contention as to the objective size of the event — 700,000 people were deported and dispossessed, which today we would call ethnic cleansing — one must look back several hundred years....

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    I agree the situation seems so hopeless and is so hopeless but is not without a glimmer of light. Check out the link below and you will find that there are Jewish communities who on Nakba Day hold ceremonies sympathetic to the Palestinians.

    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/06/reclaim-judaism-zionism/

    The liberal side of Jews have maybe always been fantastic.
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    There are still some peaceful pro-semitic Muslims out there

    French Imam Leads 40 Muslim Educators in Visit to Knesset

    Dubbed “Imam of the Jews,” Imam Hassen Chalghoumi is known for promoting ties with Israel and representing an alternative to radical Islam.

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    French Imam Hassen Chalghoumi, a central public figure and founder of the “Conference of Imams,” visited the Knesset on Wednesday as the head of a delegation of 40 Muslim educators from France and met with Israeli officials.

    Chalghoumi is known for his efforts to promote moderate Islam and his criticism of radical Islam and fundamentalism, as well as his actions to encourage inter-religious dialogue and collaboration.

    Chalghoumi is on his second visit to the Jewish state as part of a visit organized by the European Leadership Network (ELNET), which brings together leaders who believe in the importance of close relations between Europe and Israel.

    In France, he is viewed as an Islamic leader who represents an essential alternative to radical movements. He also maintains a close relationship with the Jewish community of France and recognizes the existence of the Jewish state in the land of Israel.
    “The destructive capacity of the individual, however vicious, is small; of the state, however well-intentioned, almost limitless. Expand the state and that destructive capacity necessarily expands, too, pari passu.”—Paul Johnson, Modern Times, 1983.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    French Imam Leads 40 Muslim Educators in Visit to Knesset

    Dubbed “Imam of the Jews,” Imam Hassen Chalghoumi is known for promoting ties with Israel and representing an alternative to radical Islam.

    By TPS
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    French Imam Hassen Chalghoumi, a central public figure and founder of the “Conference of Imams,” visited the Knesset on Wednesday as the head of a delegation of 40 Muslim educators from France and met with Israeli officials.

    Chalghoumi is known for his efforts to promote moderate Islam and his criticism of radical Islam and fundamentalism, as well as his actions to encourage inter-religious dialogue and collaboration.

    Chalghoumi is on his second visit to the Jewish state as part of a visit organized by the European Leadership Network (ELNET), which brings together leaders who believe in the importance of close relations between Europe and Israel.

    In France, he is viewed as an Islamic leader who represents an essential alternative to radical movements. He also maintains a close relationship with the Jewish community of France and recognizes the existence of the Jewish state in the land of Israel.
    Good job.
    So does our own (Australian) Imam Tahidi...This is why he keeps getting death threats from the radical Islamists .
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Good job.
    So does our own (Australian) Imam Tahidi...This is why he keeps getting death threats from the radical Islamists .
    I don't understand how they can compromise in allowing European Jews to settle in Palestine when it means displacing more Palestinians to accommodate them. That is strictly speaking why Israel should not be recognised at all as a Jewish state - it is built on relative and recent and current robbery.
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