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    Monster of the deep Kevin Bonham's Avatar
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    Political compasses and other online politics tests.

    Had a thread about this on the old forum here just before we moved to chesschat. I'll copy my first post straight from there for those who haven't seen the thread before:

    This is a rather nifty model for assessing people's political views on a two-dimensional scale. Like any model it's not perfect, but it's a heck of a lot better than the tired old left/right nonsense. If any posters here would like to take the test - particularly those who are active on politics, war and religion threads - I'd be interested to see what you got. I've even written down some advance guesses for some particular posters, which I expect to be very inaccurate given the limited range of issues covered here.

    Warnings - some of the questions (c.40) are a bit curly and may take some thought. Also there are no "correct"/"incorrect" answers, just a series of statements that you can agree or disagree with. It doesn't let you leave questions out.

    My result:

    Economic Left/Right: -1.68
    Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.03
    Now there is a new Australian Politics one (but it is only the test version!):

    http://www.ozpolitics.info/blog/?page_id=206

    This gives you a rating for each Australian political party, as well as general left/right scores and left/right breakdowns for economic issues, social issues and traditional values.

    Here are my results on this one:

    One Nation 43.5
    Family First 27.6
    National 35.1
    Liberal 50.0
    ALP 69.0
    Aus Dems 78.8
    Aus Greens 70.5

    overall alignment -44.5 (left)
    economic policy 4.2 (centre)
    social policy -1.1 (centre)
    traditional values -100 (extreme left)

    Based on some of the above scores I think it needs more work. In particular I found I was answering "strongly agree" or "strongly disagree" to every second question and thus the issues that I felt really deeply about - as opposed to having a strong opinion but it not being a real vote-shifter - were not being picked out. Hence some of the party scores above are higher than I think they should be.

    Have fun!

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    Thanks Kev.

    Obviously the measurements are a little crude but it's as much infotainment as it is a survey of the political spectrum.

    My results were not overly dissimilar to your own:

    One Nation 51.3
    Family First 48.7
    National 46.3
    Liberal 56.6
    ALP 68.3
    Democrats 77.7
    Aus Greens 66.6

    overall alignment -21.9 (centre-left)
    economic policy -14.7 (centre-left)
    social policy -13.5 (centrist)
    traditional values -50 (left)

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    Some of those questions were difficult cos they were too black and white.. also, this question:

    27. Crime is caused by a breakdown in traditional values and individuals not taking responsibility for their own actions

    I'd say no to the first part but a big yes to the second part, so that was kind of ambiguous.

    Anyway:

    One Nation 46.3%
    Family First 39.8%
    National Party 43%
    Liberal Party 56%
    Labor Party 65.5%
    Australian Democrats 58%
    The Greens 52.9%


    overall alignment -18.8% (centre-left)

    economic policy 2.1%
    social policy 4.5%.
    traditional values -36.4%.
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    The trick with these things is to answer the questions quickly without thinking too hard otherwise you find the questions are unanswerable.

    Try to beat this result.

    One Nation 34.5
    Family First 36.1
    National 17.1
    Liberal 32.3
    Labor 69
    Aus Dem 81.7
    Greens 87.8

    Political Outlook -74.2 = far left
    Economic Policy -73.6 = far left
    Social Policy -55 = left
    Trad values -83.7 = far left.

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    One Nation 71.6
    Family First 70.0
    National 71.8
    Liberal 58.9
    Labor 42.5
    Aus Dem 18.2
    Greens 34.9

    Political Outlook 29 = centre right
    Economic Policy 19.9 = centre right
    Social Policy 12.1 = centrist
    Trad values 67.9 = right wing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob
    Aus Dem 18.2
    Greens 34.9
    That is interesting, that someone could get a generally right-leaning set of scores but come up with Greens well ahead of Democrats.

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    One Nation 69.6%
    The Greens 66.8%
    Australian Democrats 62.9%
    Labor Party 62%
    Family First 59.7%
    Liberal Party 39.8%
    National Party 36%

    political outlook - centre-left
    economic policy - left-wing
    social policy - centre
    traditional values- centre-left

    ?!?!?! How come I average at "centre left" but align with One Nation
    Last edited by PHAT; 17-10-2005 at 10:45 PM.

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    Missed the URL for the original Political Compass test in my above quote, it is

    www.politicalcompass.org

    Re the Aus Politics test, there are always troubles with answering some of these sorts of questions. I think the sliding agree/disagree scale is a good one in this respect. For instance sometimes I agreed with the idea that a given service should be restricted to low-income earners but disagreed with the present Government's methods of assessing who constitutes a low-income earner. (In times past when I have been such I have found it so difficult to demonstrate that I have not bothered.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denis_Jessop
    The trick with these things is to answer the questions quickly without thinking too hard otherwise you find the questions are unanswerable. DJ
    Yes, I couldn’t figure out whether to be go for the more neutral response or to strongly agree/disagree… I ended up changing tack halfway through!

    For what it’s worth:
    Political outlook –73.8 far left-wing position
    Economic policy –69.9% left-wing
    Social policy –79.3% far left-wing
    Traditional values –60% left wing

    The exact percentages came up blank when I did the test but it went something like this:

    Greens over 80%
    Democrats just under 75%
    ALP just over 75%
    Lib just over 25%
    National under 20%
    FFP 52%
    ONP about 40%

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    One Nation 70.5%
    Family First 49.2%
    National Party 65.3%
    Liberal Party 84.2%
    Labor Party 66.9%
    Australian Democrats 57.8%
    The Greens 50.7%

    This was a surprise to me. Somewhere over the years I've moved from left to right. Maybe it's just a reaction to political correctness.

    71% to One Nation was a surprise -- I didn't even like Pauline till the Libs/Nationals locked her up for stealing their voters! (Family first finishing last wasn't a surprise but getting almost 50% agreement certainly was.)

    political orientation 8.3% centre
    social policy 25.1% centre-right
    economic policy 33.8% centre-right
    traditional values -5.2% centre

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    *bump*

    If anyone who didn't take either test when this thread was up previously (incl. on the old BB) would like to have a go, I'd be interested in more scores:

    Political Compass http://www.politicalcompass.org/index
    OzPolitics Test http://www.ozpolitics.info/guide/fun/politics-test/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    For the first I scored
    Economic Left/Right: 5.63
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.26

    On the second:
    Greens 8.5%
    Australian Democrats 22.9%
    Labor Party 31.6%
    Family First 69.7%
    Liberal Party 85.7%
    National Party 88.7%
    One Nation 77.8%

    Your broad political orientation score is 77.2%, which equates to a ‘Far Right’ position

    Your economic policy score score is 86.5%. This equates to a ‘Far Right’ position

    Your social policy score is 95.8%. This equates to a ‘Far Right’ position

    Your traditional values score is 96.2%. This equates to a ‘Far Right’ position

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    Your broad political orientation score is 77.2%, which equates to a ‘Far Right’ position

    Your economic policy score score is 86.5%. This equates to a ‘Far Right’ position

    Your social policy score is 95.8%. This equates to a ‘Far Right’ position

    Your traditional values score is 96.2%. This equates to a ‘Far Right’ position
    I knew you were strong right, but they're BIG numbers!
    There is no cure for leftism. Its infestation of the host mostly diminishes with age except in the most rabid of specimens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner Duggan
    I knew you were strong right, but they're BIG numbers!
    Sometimes I even surprise myself Yet these numbers don't tell anyone which specifics I voted for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    Sometimes I even surprise myself Yet these numbers don't tell anyone which specifics I voted for.
    No they don't. But they do confirm many things - one being that you won't require a bleeding heart transplant any time soon
    There is no cure for leftism. Its infestation of the host mostly diminishes with age except in the most rabid of specimens.

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