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    I think I entered the same answers as before, and got Poland.

    Try again:
    1. No (Oppose conscription)
    2. Yes (porn is not the government's business, even though it is not healthy)
    3. No to abortion
    4. Yes (sex for money is not the government's business even though I don't approve)
    5. I oppose SSM
    6. Yes (capital punishment, but only for proven capital crimes)
    7. No to single-payer health insurance (American for socialized medicine)
    8. No to free college education provided by state (no problem with Aussie system)
    9. Flat income tax
    10. Government has no business regulating business (apart from stopping fraud and coercion and enforcing contracts). This might literally make me a supporter of the other option "some regulations are necessary", but usually this means more than what I think the government should do.
    11. Yes to government allowing views that challenge its authority, otherwise this is totalitarianism.
    12. Yes, state must absolutely allow free elections.
    13. Gun rights to individuals.
    14. Yes to legalizing Mary-Jane.

    Back to Liberland with those.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Vote Compass 2019:

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    Can't seem to find my 2016 result anywhere.

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    Was there meant to be a link for 2019?

    Has One Nation become more economically conservative? Before they leaned to agrarian socialism, e.g. trade barriers. I thought the ON spot would be better occupied by Australian Conservatives.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Was there meant to be a link for 2019?
    https://votecompass.abc.net.au/

    Has One Nation become more economically conservative? Before they leaned to agrarian socialism, e.g. trade barriers. I thought the ON spot would be better occupied by Australian Conservatives.
    One Nation votes with the Coalition in parliament a heck of a lot and I doubt they're left-wing on things like trade unions. The Australian Conservatives weren't worth ABC's time evaluating after recording 0.59% in the NSW Upper House election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    One Nation votes with the Coalition in parliament a heck of a lot and I doubt they're left-wing on things like trade unions. The Australian Conservatives weren't worth ABC's time evaluating after recording 0.59% in the NSW Upper House election.
    I think One Nation should be represented by a large fuzzy cloud, not a point, since they're all over the place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Thank you. Here is mine:Political orientation ABC compass 2019.jpg
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Vote Compass 2019:

    Can't seem to find my 2016 result anywhere.
    I found the link in my email, but it doesn't work anymore.

    This time around I got a bar south and slightly east of the ALP.

    Agree with ALP 62% and Coalition 55%, which sounds about right. I wonder how much of that is them agreeing with each other.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    An illustration of moral compass:

    Music schoolmaster Clive hears the music of the spheres in his head even as he composes himself within by mentally running through a couple of gambit variations last Tuesday evening at the local chess club. He cannot conceal that he is pleased he has White. But did he notice how his opponent has set up the board?

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    Opponent Tim, however, possesses no moral compass whatsoever- and obscure antecedents to boot.

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    “I like to see 'em squirm”, he said.
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    ^^^

    I am reminded of my opponent in a late-80s Aus junior lightning setting up the board with two queens instead of a king - apparently unintentionally to begin with - and then trying to claim a few moves in that as the game had started it was too late for me to do anything.

    The late Evelyn Koshnitsky came over and sorted him out in no uncertain fashion. He was welcome to persist with his claim and be removed from the tournament, or words to that effect.

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    Political Compass is under fire on Twitter for calling basically everyone in politics right-wing on everything. This applies especially to its POTUS election 2020 rankings, where it considers pretty much everyone right wing except for Sanders and Gabbard who it thinks are the same as each other (??!!?)

    I agree with the criticism. I had a go at the questions answering them as I thought the Liberals, Labor and Greens (or their supporters) would be most likely to answer them (of course in some cases this is difficult to say). The circles are the site's rankings for the 2019 federal election. The squares are where the site ranked the parties according to my answers on their behalf:

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    Of course it might well be argued that there are aspects of being right-wing that the site misses. However it is clear that it is ranking parties as more right-wing than voters who would agree with those parties and hence creating a false impression that voters generally are screaming lefties compared to political parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Of course it might well be argued that there are aspects of being right-wing that the site misses. However it is clear that it is ranking parties as more right-wing than voters who would agree with those parties and hence creating a false impression that voters generally are screaming lefties compared to political parties.
    Aren't the axes normally Social: Libertarian/Authoritarian and Economic: Big Government/Small Government (or similar names)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Aren't the axes normally Social: Libertarian/Authoritarian and Economic: Big Government/Small Government (or similar names)?
    They vary between sites. Vote Compass has used Left/Right for economics since at least 2005.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    They vary between sites. Vote Compass has used Left/Right for economics since at least 2005.
    That still seems confusing to me, as there are parties on both the left and right that support big government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    ... I agree with the criticism. I had a go at the questions answering them as I thought the Liberals, Labor and Greens (or their supporters) would be most likely to answer them (of course in some cases this is difficult to say). The circles are the site's rankings for the 2019 federal election. The squares are where the site ranked the parties according to my answers on their behalf: ...
    Of course it might well be argued that there are aspects of being right-wing that the site misses. However it is clear that it is ranking parties as more right-wing than voters who would agree with those parties and hence creating a false impression that voters generally are screaming lefties compared to political parties.
    I tried to give the answers that might match a right-wing Labor voter, and got slightly to the left of dead center - more authoritarian than your answers implied, but about the same on the size of government. There's no way that I could see the Labor party being so far to the 'right' on the economic axis. Unless they are using European parties as the standard?

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