View Poll Results: All other things being equal (middlegame, no compensation) about when do you give up?

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  • Two pawns down

    5 6.41%
  • Piece down

    16 20.51%
  • Rook down

    15 19.23%
  • Queen down

    6 7.69%
  • Opponent has several pieces, you only have pawns

    5 6.41%
  • Only when mate is imminent

    18 23.08%
  • Always play on til mated

    13 16.67%
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  1. #226
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElevatorEscapee View Post
    To be fair, the draw from the final position is not obvious.

    1) The White bishop is scoping the Black Knight.
    2) On the move, it looks like Black must retreat his king to a worse square (c6, d6, c4), allowing 47... Kg4, winning the knight.
    3) It is not obvious how the Black King makes the save.
    Depends, if you are playing a tournament game and exhausted or treating it as a problem to solve. I think if told ''black to move and draw'' - probably all 2000+ players will find it comfortably...and eventually 1800+ as well... but under tournament conditions, this is of course a different story!
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    Well, I was in a very bad position (not exactly resignable but close) in three
    of my games during the MCC Australian Day weekender that just finished.

    I held on believing in my fighting spirit and
    the principle of "tactics occur in the endgames too"

    I won all three of them including the one against
    Richard Voon who came out with all guns firing
    to smash me!

    I will post critical positions later on tonight or tomorrow.

    In the last couple of months we have played three games
    with Voonie, I am 2-1 up!
    Last edited by ER; 28-01-2019 at 07:53 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ER View Post
    Well, I was in a very bad position (not exactly resignable but close) in three
    of my games during the MCC Australian Day weekender that just finished.

    I held on believing in my fighting spirit and
    the principle of "tactics occur in the endgames too"

    I won all three of them including the one against
    Richard Voon who came out with all guns firing
    to smash me!

    I will post critical positions later on tonight or tomorrow.

    In the last couple of months we have played three games
    with Voonie, I am 2-1 up!
    One may say that he is getting old...but then again age-wise he is not that far ahead of you so well-done!
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    Black to play ...

    VOON.jpg

    In this position Black (myself) is much worse - almost to the point of resigning to a much stronger player - R. Voon. Never losing my fighting spirit
    and painstakingly looking for good moves though I actually discovered one!!!
    Actually I win a piece, and if my opponent plays indifferently he gets checkmated in one!!! This sequence obviously lifted me psychologically
    while discouraging Richard who began playing badly and consequently lost the game!

    From MCC Australian Day W/ender
    Last edited by ER; 30-01-2019 at 10:10 AM.
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    ...Kd4 and if the white knight moves, ...Nc5 is mate.
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    Even without the tactic I wouldn't be resigning yet - Black's pieces are significantly more active, which is some compensation for the material deficit.

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    rr is of course correct with his simple solution above.
    God exists. Short and to the point.

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    Great fighting spirit by ER to win 3 games that he was losing. Support for - in the poll - not pulling the plug too early (like, in my opinion, at the leading option of a"mere" piece down). I think a Rook down and it's time to topple over the KIng (ceteris paribus of course, like no strong attack for the Rook e.g.).
    God exists. Short and to the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Caruana resigns won position in blitz game:

    http://chessexpress.blogspot.com/2019/03/one-pig.html
    Oh dear! My dad taught me early: "Never miss a check. It might be mate." (In short order.)
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    62.Qb4+ doesn't mate quickly with best play but it does win the bishop.

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    Very simple automatic move, surprised he didn't play it. But it was game 20, so maybe that explains it.
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