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    This is the Indian all time batting and bowling records, as at the start of 2004

    India has 3 of it's all time bastman playing in this test, and laxman is 12th all time run scorer for India with 3282 runs at an average of 46.

    For Indian bowling only Kumble is the current player anywhere near the Indian all time top wicket takers

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    1. Sunil Gavaskar - 10122 runs at 51
    2. Sachin Tendulkar - 8964 runs at 55
    3. Dilip Vengsarkar - 6868 runs at 42
    4. Rahul Dravid - 6417 runs at 57
    5. Mohammed Azharuddin - 6215 runs at 45
    6. Gundappa Viswanath - 6080 runs at 42
    7. Kapil Dev - 5248 runs at 31
    8. Sanath Ganguly - 4493 runs at 42
    9. M Amarnath - 4378 runs at 42
    10. Ravi Shastri - 3830 runs at 36

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    1. Kapil Dev - 434 wickets
    2. Anil Kumble - 370 wickets
    3. BS Bedi - 266 wicjkets
    4. BS Chandrasekhar - 242 wickets
    5. J Srinath - 236 wickets

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    This is the all time highest Australian test wicket takers

    With our all time number 1 (warne) and 2 (Mcgrath) injured we still have Gillepsie (all time number 12), McGill (all time number 17) and Lee (number 21) playing.

    Incidently Gillespie;s 2 wickets today means that he has 187 wickets, passing Alan Davidson. He is on track to get 201 and beat Thompson to be in the all time top 10. Not bad for an injury stricken plodder is it?

    But Lee is also chanrging up the ranks. He needs just 4 wickets to beat Max walker and be in the top 20,, and with his wicket today, he now just needs 3 more wickets

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    1. Shane Warne - 491 wickets
    2. Glen McGrath - 430 wickets
    3. Denis Lillee - 355 wkts
    4. Craig McDermott - 291 wkts
    5. Richie Benaud - 248 wkts
    6. Glen McKenzie - 246 wkts
    7. Ray Lindwall - 228 wkts
    8. Clarie Grimmett - 216 wkts
    9. Merv Hughes - 212 wkts
    10. Jeff Thomson - 200 wkts
    11. Alan Davidson - 186 wkts
    12. Jason Gillespie - 185 wkts
    13. Geoff Lawson - 180 wkts
    14. Terry Alderman - 170 wkts
    15. Keith Miller - 170 wkts
    16. Bill Johnston - 160 wkts
    17. Stuart MacGill - 146 wkts
    18. Bill O'Reilly - 144 wkts
    19. H Trumble - 141 wkts
    20. Max Walker - 138 wkts
    21. Brett Lee - 135 wkts

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    This Indian team are batting like gods. Look at them: Sehwag, Ganguly, Dravid, Laxman, Tendulkar - five of the top six with big hundreds in a four-test series where one of the tests was trashed by rain, and this on Australian soil where India have often been useless in the past. Chopra must have a real inferiority complex surrounded by these guys. What was this the Aussies were coming out with about this Tendulkar guy being "down on confidence"? Yeah, right. Just a shame we didn't get to see if McGrath would have blunted them or not. My guess: not.

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    Yeah I doubt mcgrath/warne would have made a difference.

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    Indians are such lousy actors

    The script states that Steve Waugh in his final match leads the Australians to a victory in front of a packed SCG. Remember that Steve has never lost a series at home in his life as captain, and the last time we lost was 11 years ago

    The indians seem not have followed this script, and with 650 runs so far they are at worst almost certain of a draw.

    So how do we win now? Get india out early in the first hour or so, then bat to the end of day 4 by scorimg fast, and then bowling india out in a couple of session?

    If Australia loses it will be such a shame and a bad end to Steve Waugh's career
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    It wouldn't be a shame. He is the best ever captain for Australia, and the result of this game wouldn't affect that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    If Australia loses it will be such a shame and a bad end to Steve Waugh's career
    For once I actually agree with you. It will indeed be very humiliating for Steve Waugh and for the rest of his teammates if they lose.

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    India vs Australia are going to be a very important part of the cricket scene in the future, and will one day rival the Ashes series.

    The reason for this is pure economics and interest.

    India has more than 1000 million people, about 2.5 times more than the populations of Pakistan, Bangladesh, England, South Africa, Australia, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, West Indies and New Zeland put together.

    Also Cricket is far and away the number 1 sport in India - things that you cannot say for cricket in England (soccor), Australia (AFL, League, Union), New Zeland (Union), West Indies (Basketball), South Africa (Soccer), Bangladesh (soccer). Only Pakistand and Sri Lanka have cricker as their number one sport by a HUGE margin.

    India also puts on 25 million new births a year - a population increase that is more than the other cricket nations combined, and only matched in percentage terms by the population growths of Pakistan and Bangaldesh.

    India has one of the fastest growing economies in the world, and it's diaspora is second only to the chinese. Indian migrants are in the top 5 migrants to Sydeny.

    India is responsbile for about 60% of all cricket revenue in the world, and a third of all the cricket signage in AUSTRALIA has been snapped up by Indian companies.

    The Australian CXriucket Board also made the most money in it's history when it sold the overseas rights to the Indian tour to Star ESPN, which then beamed it to the 1 billion plus cricket fanatics in India.

    The future of cricket, the money in cricket are all in India.

    Over the coming years we will tour India more and more, and they tour here more frequantly. Note that India now play 4 tests with us, not teh usual 3 tests, while the windies will play 3 next time they get here - a far cry from the 5 and 6 tests they played against us in their glory day.

    Only the Ashes tradition prevents India from being our primary and most played rival, but money will talk, and this will change.

    The real surprise is that with their huge population (india is the seconmd most populas country on earth after China, and in it's current birth rate will over take China during this century), teh huge popularity of cricket, and the money that is thrown at their cricket, India simply has not dominated cricket like we have done
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    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    India has more than 1000 million people, about 2.5 times more than the populations of Pakistan, Bangladesh, England, South Africa, Australia, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, West Indies and New Zeland put together.
    So?

    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    Also Cricket is far and away the number 1 sport in India - things that you cannot say for cricket in England (soccor), Australia (AFL, League, Union), New Zeland (Union), West Indies (Basketball), South Africa (Soccer), Bangladesh (soccer). Only Pakistand and Sri Lanka have cricker as their number one sport by a HUGE margin.
    AFL is popular in Victoria im sure, but nowhere near as popular in NSW and QLD. But you are forgetting Chess in India.

    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    India also puts on 25 million new births a year - a population increase that is more than the other cricket nations combined, and only matched in percentage terms by the population growths of Pakistan and Bangaldesh.
    I dont know why you are giving population statistics.

    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    India has one of the fastest growing economies in the world, and it's diaspora is second only to the chinese. Indian migrants are in the top 5 migrants to Sydeny.
    Again, Do not see the point.

    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    India is responsbile for about 60% of all cricket revenue in the world, and a third of all the cricket signage in AUSTRALIA has been snapped up by Indian companies.
    Tendulkar earns more than all the Australian cricket team put together.

    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    The Australian CXriucket Board also made the most money in it's history when it sold the overseas rights to the Indian tour to Star ESPN, which then beamed it to the 1 billion plus cricket fanatics in India.
    There are only 1 billion people in India, and not all of them have cable, or even a TV, or even electricity for a TV.

    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    The future of cricket, the money in cricket are all in India.
    Possibly.

    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    Over the coming years we will tour India more and more, and they tour here more frequantly. Note that India now play 4 tests with us, not teh usual 3 tests, while the windies will play 3 next time they get here - a far cry from the 5 and 6 tests they played against us in their glory day.
    I dont know.

    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    Only the Ashes tradition prevents India from being our primary and most played rival, but money will talk, and this will change.
    Money will talk?

    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    The real surprise is that with their huge population (india is the seconmd most populas country on earth after China, and in it's current birth rate will over take China during this century), teh huge popularity of cricket, and the money that is thrown at their cricket, India simply has not dominated cricket like we have done
    Obviously you do not understand the importance of infrastructure, which is hopeless in India. And using population statistics does not help, since the 1 billion people in India, have the same ammount of money as the 19 million in Australia, with this statistic, There is no real suprise that India did not totally dominate cricket. The only suprise is that India, with so much politics, bribery and much less money, were able to prop up players such as the worlds best batsmen, Tendulkar, also Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Ganguly, and Im sure Parthiv Patel also has a promising future as a batsmen, he is only 17, and he looks like he is 10. And also, Agit agarker, the highest wicket taker in this season, over here in Australia. And if theres another suprise, its got to be the fact that Australia, with 19 million people, much less political influence than India, and much less bribery, has miserably lost most of the time in India itself.

    Jeo.

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    [quote="Jeo"]
    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    AFL is popular in Victoria im sure, but nowhere near as popular in NSW and QLD. But you are forgetting Chess in India.

    I dont know why you are giving population statistics.

    Again, Do not see the point.


    Tendulkar earns more than all the Australian cricket team put together.

    There are only 1 billion people in India, and not all of them have cable, or even a TV, or even electricity for a TV.

    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    The future of cricket, the money in cricket are all in India.
    Possibly.

    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    Only the Ashes tradition prevents India from being our primary and most played rival, but money will talk, and this will change.
    Money will talk?

    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    The real surprise is that with their huge population (india is the seconmd most populas country on earth after China, and in it's current birth rate will over take China during this century), teh huge popularity of cricket, and the money that is thrown at their cricket, India simply has not dominated cricket like we have done
    Obviously you do not understand the importance of infrastructure, which is hopeless in India. And using population statistics does not help, since the 1 billion people in India, have the same ammount of money as the 19 million in Australia, with this statistic, There is no real suprise that India did not totally dominate cricket. The only suprise is that India, with so much politics, bribery and much less money, were able to prop up players such as the worlds best batsmen, Tendulkar, also Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Ganguly, and Im sure Parthiv Patel also has a promising future as a batsmen, he is only 17, and he looks like he is 10. And also, Agit agarker, the highest wicket taker in this season, over here in Australia. And if theres another suprise, its got to be the fact that Australia, with 19 million people, much less political influence than India, and much less bribery, has miserably lost most of the time in India itself.

    Jeo.

    I do understand the importance of infrasturcure and training in making a team number 1.

    What I was stating, and which you seem to have missed the point of, is that India are the "natural" cricket superpower, and once they get their hpuse sorted out, they will be very very hard to beat.

    That is because of their huge population, the enormous money that is thrown at cricket (sachin tendulkar makes more indeed than anyone by a very big margin), and the fact that cricket is accorded far greater relative siginificance in India than cricket in any other country

    The relevence of population, is that if you expect a natural talent to come every 1 million people, then india with 1100 million can expect 1100 such natural talents, to our 19. But that is where training and infrastructure comes into it.

    And yes money will talk
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    If you understand where infrastructure comes into it, why is it such a suprise?

    I dont believe in talent. All success is a result of hard work, or in some cases, smart work, combined with a little luck.

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    Just to show you how impressive the 705 runs by India is;

    The 705 score was India's highest ever test score in the history of Indian cricket.

    That was also the highest ever score scored against Australia in our test history.

    Who would ever have thought that India could do this to us?

    I thought that with Lee (with his 3 wickets today, the 20th all time Australian test wicket taker) and Gillespie (the 11th all time wicket taker in Australian history) and McGill (the 17th all time test wicket taker in Austrealian hisory) we would have had India in trouble. But 705 runs against us - never would have thought that India would have doen that
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    Australia is fighting back, with much more fury than India showed.

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    This last test is Steve's 57th test match as captain. He just overtook Arjuna Ranatunge who has had 56 as captian, and only Alan Border with 93 tests as captain, and Clive Lloyd with 74 tests as captain have played more tests as captian than him.

    Steve also has won more tests than any other captain in history - 41 tests, with Lloyd coming second with 36 victories and Border with 32. Waugh has also just lost 9 matches, far less than Border's 22.

    Ganguly in contrast has captained India 36 times, for 14 wins and 11 losses

    Steve also has played more test matches than any other player in test hisrory - 168 tests, which is more than the next most esperienced test player in history - Border's 156 tests

    I hope that Steve does not go as a loser, and from what I am seeing this match looks like ending in a draw. I would have so loved to see Steve win, as would most of us Australians, but I think that is impossible now. However Gilchrist said that we can still win
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    I think that they can still win, the way things are looking.

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