NZCF Ratings

[CivicChessMan]

New NZCF rating list expected out in the next few days. Watch this thread.

[CivicChessMan]

  1 (unc) CHANDLER M              2546 
  2 (unc) DIVE RJ              WE 2460 
  3 (unc) KER AF               WE 2432 
  4 (unc) NOKES RI             CA 2383 
  5 (+ 1) WASTNEY S            WE 2375 
  6 (- 1) WANG PC              AC 2372 
  7 (unc) SMITH RW             MM 2353 
  8 (+ 1) STEADMAN MVR         AC 2348 
  9 (- 1) CROAD N              WE 2344 
 10 (unc) LUKEY SG             CA 2314 
 11 (+ 1) WATSON BR            AC 2306 
 12 (- 1) GARBETT PA           NS 2294 
 13 (new) NOBLE MF             UH 2291 
 14 (- 1) HART R               NS 2271 
 15 (- 1) SHEN D               AC 2253 
 16 (unc) SPAIN GA             GA 2251 
 17 (+ 2) SUTHERLAND JL        OT 2236 
 18 (- 3) MCLAREN LJ           HP 2233 
 19 (- 2) BAIDER D             WE 2229 
    (- 1) HAN D                AC 2229 
 21 (unc) ZHANG JL                2209 
 22 (- 2) THORNTON GA          NS 2207 
 23 (- 1) THOMAS B             UH 2206 
 24 (- 1) VAN DER HOORN MW     WE 2182 
 25 (- 1) DUNEAS J             MM 2166 
 26 (unc) NIJMAN B             WE 2160 
 27 (- 2) WHEELER B            AC 2152 
 28 (unc) BURNS CJ             WA 2139 
 29 (unc) BARLOW MJ            NS 2135 
 30 (unc) MACHDOEM KA          CA 2133 
 31 (+ 3) KRSTEV M             NS 2129 
 32 (- 1) JOHNSON Q            OT 2121 
 33 (- 6) MCDONALD JA          WA 2111 
 34 (+ 5) MILLIGAN H           NS 2107 
 35 (- 2) DAVIS JM             PN 2105 
 36 (- 4) KRSTEV A             NS 2103 
 37 (+ 6) POMEROY AJ           WE 2099 
    (new) TURNER MG            WE 2099 
 39 (+ 1) HILL M               WE 2098 
 40 (- 5) LE BROCQ MJ          NS 2092 
 41 (- 5) WATSON J             CA 2091 
 42 (- 5) MCNABB MD            CA 2087 
 43 (- 5) QI C                 CA 2084 
 44 (new) WILSON J             WE 2078 
 45 (new) BROWNE JA            HA 2071 
 46 (- 5) MCCRONE J            NS 2069 
    (- 5) VAN DIJK P           WE 2069 
 48 (+ 2) STUART PW            NS 2061 
 49 (- 5) CHEN AY              HP 2059 
 50 (new) MAROROA SY           HP 2050

[CivicChessMan]

  1 (+ 1) KER AF               WE 2364 
  2 (+ 1) DIVE RJ              WE 2352 
  3 (+ 1) CROAD N              WE 2338 
  4 (+ 1) NOBLE MF             UH 2306 
  5 (+ 1) GARBETT PA           NS 2291 
  6 (+ 1) WATSON BR            AC 2251 
  7 (+ 1) LUKEY SG             CA 2234 
  8 (+ 2) STEADMAN MVR         AC 2228 
  9 (unc) WASTNEY S            WE 2226 
 10 (unc) SMITH RW             MM 2207 
 11 (+ 1) PINIC N              MM 2205 
 12 (+ 1) THORNTON GA          NS 2200 
 13 (+ 1) BAIDER D             WE 2182 
 14 (+ 1) HART R               NS 2168 
 15 (+ 1) MCLAREN LJ           HP 2163 
 16 (+ 1) FUATAI F             NS 2151 
 17 (+ 1) GREEN EM             HP 2145 
 18 (+ 1) VAN DER HOORN MW     WE 2143 
 19 (+ 1) HAN D                AC 2133 
 20 (+ 1) BARLOW MJ            NS 2125 
 21 (+ 2) LEE E                WE 2116 
 22 (+ 2) CARPINTER AL         NS 2107 
 23 (+ 3) DUNEAS J             MM 2101 
 24 (+ 1) KRSTEV M             NS 2086 
 25 (+ 6) MAROROA SY           HP 2070 
    (+ 2) WHEELER B            AC 2070 
 27 (+ 1) MCNABB MD            CA 2068 
 28 (+ 1) KRSTEV A             NS 2045 
 29 (+ 1) MCDONALD JA          WA 2042 
 30 (+ 7) SUTHERLAND JL        OT 2026 
 31 (+ 1) STUART PW            NS 2019 
 32 (+ 1) BROWNE JA            HA 2016 
 33 (+ 5) BURNS CJ             WA 2008 
 34 (+ 5) JACKSON LR           WE 2006 
 35 (+15) JOHNSON Q            OT 2001 
 36 (unc) NIJMAN B             WE 2000 
 37 (+ 3) HILL M               WE 1994 
 38 (+ 4) PETRESKI F           NS 1987 
 39 (new) THOMAS B             UH 1986 
 40 (+ 3) MARNER G             WE 1983 
 41 (+ 3) GOODHUE N            AC 1979 
    (+ 3) POMEROY AJ           WE 1979 
    (+ 3) UNELIUS R            CA 1979 
 44 (- 3) EVANS DJ             NS 1975 
    (+ 3) NYBERG M             WE 1975 
 46 (+ 2) QI C                 CA 1974 
 47 (+ 2) GUNN NJ              NS 1966 
 48 (new) BENNETT HP           HA 1963 
 49 (new) FRAEMOHS P           CA 1961 
 50 (new) MACHDOEM KA          CA 1954

[flukey]

Looking at these 2 lists makes me wonder at the sense of the recent rating uplift ... the standard ratings are almost always higher than people's equivalent rapid rating ... was the re-rating exercise only done for the standard list?

Also, I'd imagine that the standard ratings are higher than most people's FIDE.

[CivicChessMan]

The use of intermediate ratings was applied to both the standard and rapid lists.

[Tony Dowden]

But isn't Flukey's observation effectively correct due to the relative infrequency of rapid events?

[Qbert]

When are those November ratings due out CCM? Hamish Gold needs to know if he can qualify for the NZ chp on rating.

[CivicChessMan]

Ratings should be available in the next couple of days.

[Tony Dowden]

When are those November ratings due out CCM? Hamish Gold needs to know if he can qualify for the NZ chp on rating.

If Hamish makes it into the NZ Champs I will be sorely tempted to try and qualify for the Aussie Champs (assuming I can nab the 'top Tassie player' card) to see whether or not I can exceed his percentage score!

[GinoTHEstud]

Gold going for gold huh....
That would be a day for the record books, Since i am not playing you might just get your chance.

[Craig_Hall]

AGM 2010 passed a remit to the effect that the NI, SI and Major Open champions automatically qualify for the Championship (this remit was proposed by Council). In the case of a tie, the first tiebreak in a Swiss is sum of opponents' scores. Looking it over, I'm pretty sure that was Hamish, so he qualifies automatically, regardless of rating.

[Qbert]

AGM 2010 passed a remit to the effect that the NI, SI and Major Open champions automatically qualify for the Championship (this remit was proposed by Council). In the case of a tie, the first tiebreak in a Swiss is sum of opponents' scores. Looking it over, I'm pretty sure that was Hamish, so he qualifies automatically, regardless of rating.

Thanks Craig, I'll let Hamish know. The expense of playing in Auckland meant it wasn't worth it unless it was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity (for Hamish) to play in the top event.

[CivicChessMan]

  1   GOLD, HAMISH R           OT 1816   W23   W6    W7    D3    W2    D5    L4    W10     6     42
  2   MACHDOEM, KARMA A (ANDY) CA 2135   W18   W9    D5    W10   L1    W11   D3    W7      6     39½
  3   VAN GINKEL, JOHN P       NE 2013   W17   W21   W11   D1    D5    D6    D2    W9      6     39½
  4 s NIJMAN, ARIE J           CA 1843   D8    D7    W17   W22   L6    W9    W1    W5      6     39

Above table confirms Hamish Gold is the winner on tiebreak.

And here is the rule that Craig has referred to.

2.2.3a Automatic Qualifiers
Notwithstanding rule 2.2.3, the defending New Zealand champion(s) shall qualify automatically for the Championship tournament. The highest placed New Zealand player in each of the following tournaments in the current year shall also qualify automatically: New Zealand Junior Championship, New Zealand Major Open, North Island Championship and South Island Championship. A tie in any of these four tournaments shall be resolved according to Tournament Rule 1.7.

This means that the automatic qualifiers are: IM Anthony Ker (NZ Championship), Winston Yao (NZ Junior), Alan Ansell (Major Open), Bill Forster (North Island) and Hamish Gold (South Island). Yao, Forster and Gold have ratings less than 2000 so otherwise would not have qualified.

I would have liked to see the NZ Senior Champion included in the above list. This would have given "Wild" Bill Lynn a place in the Championship.

[GinoTHEstud]

What an exclusive and National Championship NZ has to offer.......

We need to go back to roundrobin top 12 then reserve then the major

[CivicChessMan]

The three-tier Congress where there were 12-player round robins for the Championship and Reserve took place from 1988 to 1996.

In 1997, this format was changed to allow overseas players to be invited. GM Ian Rogers scored 9.5/11 to win the Championship ahead of Alexei Kulashko 8.5, Russell Dive and Paul Garbett 8, Anthony Ker 6.5. Also-rans included Ben Martin, Bob Smith, Ortvin Sarapu and Peter Green. 22 players competed. Rating spread was 2600 down to 2005.

In 1998, 18 players competed but there were no overseas players. With a rating spread from 2299 down to 1873, the Championship should have reverted to the 12 player round-robin. The rating spread would have then been 2299 down to 2042. Actually, in line with today's rating qualification. Kulashko 8.5 won ahead of Ker 8.

In 1999, the Championship reverted to the 12-player round-robin. This was, in part, due to Congress being held in Dunedin. Willi Kaspar was the only overseas player. The rating spread was 2346 down to 1824. Dive scored a near perfect 10.5 to win, with Ker and Garbett a distant second equal with 8.

In the first congress of the new millenium, three GMs: Rogers, Drazen Sermek and Herman van Riemsdijk competed in a field of 20 players. Rogers won with 10.5 ahead of Sermek and Kulashko 8.5, van Riemsdijk and Garbett 7. Rating spread was 2562 down to 1970. Just two players below 2000.