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    US Presidential Elections 2004

    carry over from the ACF website, about the US presidential elections - where the most important person in the world will be elected
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    There are 9 candidates remaining for the Democrat nomination:

    1. Howard Dean
    2. General Wesley Clark
    3. Senator John Kerry
    4. Representative Richard Gepherdt
    5. Senator Joe Lieberman (vice president candidate to Gore in 2000)
    6. Senator John Edwards
    7. Representative Dennis Kucinich
    8. Carol Braun (african american)
    9. reverend Al Sharpton (african american)

    President Bush has no serious opposition for the Republican nomination

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    using the political compass test of Kevin this is how the presidential candidates show up:

    President Bush - very right/ very authoritarian (the most right and most authoritarian of all 10)

    John Edwards, Joe Liberman, Richard Gepherdt - very right/ very autoritarian

    Howard Dean, Wesley Clark, John Kerry, Carol Braun - right/ authoritarian

    Rev Sharpton, Dennis Kusinch - left/ libertarian

    The most left/ libertarian is the african american rev sharpton

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    Dean, what does he stand for:

    Since dean seems to be the Democrat favourite, these are his views:

    1. Civil Rights - supports affirmative action, favours gays serving in the military, supports adoption by gays, says racial profiling is discrimination, opposes the right wing act to make marriage only between hetrosexuals

    2. Social issues - supports abortion, death penalty only for extreme crimes, will not decriminalise drugs except if it is for public health, no change to the gun laws

    3. Environment - stop drilling in the Artic, develop renewable energy, end gas exepmtions to cars, give conservation incentives to car owners, undo Bush's energy policy

    4. Economy - add more people to health care assistance, repeal Bush's tax cuts, invest and create more jobs in the infrastructure, guarantee social security for retirees

    5. Internal Security - against military tribunals, does not want enemies termed "combatants", protect immigrants rights, wants more migrants to be citizens, repeal the patriots act if it infringes on basic liberties

    6. International - opposes US war in Iraq, more support for troops in Afghansitan, more engagment equally with Israel and Palestines, end Bush's "first strike" policy to preempt enemy nation attacks

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    here is a test that has been designed to see which US presidential candidate has policies and actions that you espouse.

    Simply pick yes/no answers to the political/ economical/ social questions asked, and whether that issue is of high/medium/ low importance, and the website will do an automatic search and tell you which candidate shares your positions. It takes about 3 minutes to do

    http://www.selectsmart.com/president/

    People will be surprised by the selections.

    The fact is that no one candidate will share 100% of your politcal/social/economical/ foreign policy views, and the website will list from highest to lowest which candidates are most suitable for you.

    The website states "If your top candidate scores in the 90ís or above, youíll be delighted; the 80ís, youíll be very pleased; the 70ís, youíll be satisfied; the 60ís, youíll find many points of agreement but some differences too with this candidate's positions. If your top score is in the 50ís, your top candidate is the "lesser of evils". If your top candidate did not get at least 50%, then all we can is that you have a unique combination of political views."

    Hoep you find your US presidential soulmate



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    filings from the funding raised show that Dean has raised $15 million in the 3 months leading up to december

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ing/index.html

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    Urgh. My social policies are so far to the left by US political standards that it erroneously pegged me as a Green (72%) or Socialist (68%) - perhaps that political compass pegging us all as lefties had more to do with the USA being economically to the right of Australia?

    Among the Democrat candidates that matter I got:

    Dean 64%
    Clark 63%
    remaining Dems in the mid-50s except for:
    Kerry 49%
    Lieberman 37%

    For Bush I got 19%

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    Wesley Clark has stated that he will not accpet the Vice Presidential nomination. It is the presidential nomination or nothing - no compromise, all or nothing!!

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ark/index.html

    jan 19 is the Iowa caucus which polls show is a head to head between dean and Gepherdt, while Clark like Liberman is concentrating on the New Hampshire Primary of January 27
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    the first polls for 2004 is in

    shows that of the 9 democrat candidates, dean has 22% of the democrat votes, more than double the next best democrat candidates. This however is lower than the 33% that dean had at his peak, prior to the capture of Saddam, but he is still well ahead when democrat voters are given a choice on who they want to win in the 9 strong field.

    In a two way match up with the Dean's top 4 rivals, Dean leads Clark 46% to 32%, leads Kerry 51% to 29%, Lieberman 50% to 32%, and Gepherdt 53% to 28%.

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...oll/index.html
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    The funds that have been raised as at Dec 31, 2003 have t be filed, and these are the latest filings

    President Bush has so far raised $130 million so far - far more than the US RECORD $100 million raised in 2000 for the entire Presidetial campaign - primaries and then the fight with Gore

    Thus President Bush has broken the US fund raising record once again, and this too in a race where he does not face even one opponent for the Republican Nomination.

    By contrast all the democrats combined have raised less than President Bush alone, and these democrats have to use the money to pound each other to get the Demoicrat nomination.

    Dean so farhas broken all democrat fund raising records with his innovative campign fund raisings, but still has had "only" $40 million. This money whilst far far more than Gore, Clinton, Mondale or carter have raised, pales into insignificance when you consider the mammoth war chest that Bush now has to unleash on his Democrat opponents. Dean will have to use almost all his money to win the Democrat nomination.

    With another 7 months remaining, President Bush who became the first and only man to get the magic $100 million in fund raising, is now on target to become the only man to get $200 million in campaign funding.

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ing/index.html
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    Dean's oppoenenets are fighting dirty. His derisive comments on teh Iowa cacus, have been aired by NBC - forcing Dean to put the fire.

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...owa/index.html

    The Iowa cacus is on January 19, and the polls are showing the Richard Gepherdt has narrowed the gap significantly, with Kerry third.

    In the New Hapmshire Primary on jan 27, polls are showing that Clark is getting the momentum on Dean, and is closing up on him fast, with Kerry still third there.
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    This is the latest CNN/USA today Gallup polls, with the comparative results of the polling done two weeks ago on 15 december in brackets

    very intersting

    Howard Dean 24% (27%)
    Wesley Clark 20% (12%)
    John Kerry 11% (7%)
    Joe Lieberman 10% (12%)
    Dick Gephardt 9% (7%)
    John Edwards 6% (6%)
    Carol Moseley Braun 3% (3%)
    Al Sharpton 2% (6%)
    Dennis Kucinich 2% (2%)
    Other/None/No opinion 15% (18%)

    Howard Dean leads nationally, but his lead has been eroded substantially -with Clark the biggest beneficiary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chesslover
    This is the latest CNN/USA today Gallup polls, with the comparative results of the polling done two weeks ago on 15 december in brackets

    very intersting

    Howard Dean 24% (27%)
    Wesley Clark 20% (12%)
    John Kerry 11% (7%)
    Joe Lieberman 10% (12%)
    Dick Gephardt 9% (7%)
    John Edwards 6% (6%)
    Carol Moseley Braun 3% (3%)
    Al Sharpton 2% (6%)
    Dennis Kucinich 2% (2%)
    Other/None/No opinion 15% (18%)

    Howard Dean leads nationally, but his lead has been eroded substantially -with Clark the biggest beneficiary.
    For pespective, this is the highest and lowest polls that the leading Democrat contenders got since polling began on August 2003

    Dean (peak 31% November/ low 12% August)
    Clark (peak 22% September/ low 2% August)
    Kerry (peak 13% October/ low 7% December)
    Lieberman (peak 23% August/ low 10% January 2004)
    Gepherdt (peak 16% Sepetember/ low 7% December)
    Edwards (peak 7% December/ low 2% October)

    The story has been one of Liberman(as Gore's VP nominee for 2000) and Gepherdt (the democrat leader in congress for many yeears) starting high due to the high name recongition, and then falling as Dean and C;lark with a low ratings, have through their campaign buiilt up their votes.
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    CNN poll shows that TWO THIRDS of all americans think that President Bush has the right personal qualities to be the president

    Contrast that with teh ridicule and contempt that President Bush has been subjected elsewhere in the world

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ues/index.html

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    Braun OUT!!!

    and there is 8...

    Carol Braun, the only african american female senator in US history, will pull out thursday US time, and endorse dean in a joint press conference

    This news is leading the CNN coverage.

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ain/index.html

    With Iowa next Monday, more of the 8 current runners should pull out, if they poll badly. However Clark and Liberman are not running on Iowa, and are campaigning in New hampshire, so their initial moment of truth will be a week later after Iowa

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    The first real guns in the US presidential elections have been fired!!!!!!

    Under legislation the first cacus for republicans and democrats is the Iowa caucus, and the first primary is the New Hapmshire Primary

    However heavily african american Washington DC, has a "indicatative" "non binding" primary to steal the thunder of Iowa and New hapmshire - and as no delegates are elected till the February caucus it has no meaning. Also it is the only state/ territory in USA with more such a huge african american majority and is thus unrepresentative of the rest of USA.

    However a significant 12% of the peoplevoted - far more than the 8% who normnally vote, showing that Dean and Sharpton has energised their base.

    Only 4 of the then 9 candidates stood for election - Dean, Sharpton the black priest, Braun the black ex-senator, and Kucinich the left wing winger

    And the winner in this ...DEAN!! DEAN!!!

    Dean got 43% of this huge african american voters in this city

    Sharpton got 34%, Braun got 12% and Kucinich got 8%

    Dean has shrugged off the allegations that he does not have any black cabinet member whilsy Governor of vermont - a state with 94% of it's residents white.

    A good morale booster for dean - even though this is a meaningless vote - going into the Iowa caucus vote on january 19

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