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  • Carlsen wins by seven or more games

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  • Carlsen wins by six games

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  • Carlsen wins by five games

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  • Carlsen wins by four games [correct]

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  • Carlsen wins by three games

    4 16.67%
  • Carlsen wins by two games

    9 37.50%
  • Carlsen wins by one game

    6 25.00%
  • Carlsen wins in playoff

    2 8.33%
  • Nepomniachtchi wins in playoff

    0 0%
  • Nepomniachtchi wins by one game

    2 8.33%
  • Nepomniachtchi wins by two games

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Indeed, Reminds me of Fisher-Larsen and to some extent, Fisher-Taimanov.
    Yes, some have said it was like two totally different Nepos: strong Nepo-A in the first half, and blunder-prone and demoralized Nepo-B in the second.
    The same could have been said about Petrosian in his match with Fischer: started strong, even scoring a win, and having the better of draws, then collapsed in last 5 games. Same with Euwe in the return with Alekhin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Yes, some have said it was like two totally different Nepos: strong Nepo-A in the first half, and blunder-prone and demoralized Nepo-B in the second.
    The same could have been said about Petrosian in his match with Fischer: started strong, even scoring a win, and having the better of draws, then collapsed in last 5 games. Same with Euwe in the return with Alekhin.
    Yes I think that game 6 must be a particularly demoralising way to lose. Especially spending so long on the edge of holding, objectively if not practically. Maybe losing a 30-40 move game would be less damaging. If we can imagine an alternative scenario where he holds that endgame, he might have drawn a lot of strength from it.
    So what's your excuse? For running like the devil's chasing you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    Yes I think that game 6 must be a particularly demoralising way to lose. Especially spending so long on the edge of holding, objectively if not practically. Maybe losing a 30-40 move game would be less damaging. If we can imagine an alternative scenario where he holds that endgame, he might have drawn a lot of strength from it.
    That game six is the best example of why match play is the best format for deciding the world champion, rather than 8 player double round robin, knockout format or Grand Swiss.

    With Match play, after losing that 8 hour game, Nepo has to return the next day and face once again the same opponent who he just lost to. In any of the other formats, both players would have gone onto different opponents. Therefore, Carlsen would not have been able to cash in on his hard fought work in Game 6 in his next white game.

    I think also the change of format had a large impact here. After Nepo has WBW BW, Carlsen then had W in Game 6 and W in Game 8. After the long win in Game 6, Nepo still had another black to face at the end of three games before getting to the rest day.

    This format was designed to produce more wins and exciting games. It produced the former, but as Nepo admitted, after losing Game 6, nerves got the better of him in a match for the World Championship.

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    Interesting to see who will be the next contender. The match was a great experience for Nepo but I have a feeling that the next contender will be neither him nor Firujia ...but Caruana
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Interesting to see who will be the next contender. The match was a great experience for Nepo but I have a feeling that the next contender will be neither him nor Firujia ...but Caruana
    Quite possible - Firoujza is looking promising but Caruana has more runs on the board at this stage.

    It was mentioned before the match that Nepo had the difficulty of never having played a high-level match of any sort whereas Carlsen was on his fifth WC. Next time round there will be three former WC combatants in the Candidates, if they all take up their places.

    I was idly wondering if three was a record (being at a loose end due to both the chess and cricket finishing early) - my suggested answer is below, in invisible ink if people want to test their trivia.

    >>> The 1980 Candidates included Spassky, Petrosian, Tal and Korchnoi. Any advance on that one? <<<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Rout View Post
    Quite possible - Firoujza is looking promising but Caruana has more runs on the board at this stage.

    It was mentioned before the match that Nepo had the difficulty of never having played a high-level match of any sort whereas Carlsen was on his fifth WC. Next time round there will be three former WC combatants in the Candidates, if they all take up their places.

    I was idly wondering if three was a record (being at a loose end due to both the chess and cricket finishing early) - my suggested answer is below, in invisible ink if people want to test their trivia.

    >>> The 1980 Candidates included Spassky, Petrosian, Tal and Korchnoi. Any advance on that one? <<<
    1985-87 had 4 seeded into it at various points plus Tal qualified through an interzonal (Korchnoi, Spassky, Smyslov seeded into the 16 player round robin, Karpov seeded directly into the final).
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    Not sure how much weight to put on it, he's probably just trolling, but he's said he may not contest the WC again.

    Magnus Carlsen may opt against world chess defence due to lack of motivation

    Magnus Carlsen says he is ready to shock the chess world by giving up his world championship title – because defending it no longer motivates him. The five-time world champion retained the classical title in emphatic style in Dubai last week, crushing his Russian challenger Ian Nepomniachtchi 7˝-3˝, but now says he has other priorities.

    “It’s been clear to me for most of the year that this world championship should be the last,” he said. “It doesn’t mean as much any more as it once did. I haven’t felt that the positive outweighs the negative.

    “For those who expect me to play the world championship next time, the chance that they will be disappointed is very great.”

    The 31-year-old said the only thing likely to persuade him to keep defending his title would be if his next opponent was the brilliant 18‑year‑old Alireza Firouzja, who recently broke Carlsen’s record as the youngest 2800-rated player and is now ranked world No 2. ...
    So what's your excuse? For running like the devil's chasing you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    Not sure how much weight to put on it, he's probably just trolling, but he's said he may not contest the WC again.

    Magnus Carlsen may opt against world chess defense due to lack of motivation

    Magnus Carlsen says he is ready to shock the chess world by giving up his world championship title – because defending it no longer motivates him.
    So lets assume that Carlsen decides to relinquish his crown. Will the 2022 candidates be another double round robin championship like 2007 or will the top two finishers of the candidates play a match?

    Or does the challenger win by default? (like 1975)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAHAHAHA View Post
    So lets assume that Carlsen decides to relinquish his crown. Will the 2022 candidates be another double round robin championship like 2007 or will the top two finishers of the candidates play a match?

    Or does the challenger win by default? (like 1975)
    FIDE reissues the rules each time, but for the most recent the second in the Candidates would step in:

    https://handbook.fide.com/files/handbook/FWCM2021.pdf

    - see Part 2 for the full hierarchy. Pragmatically it will have to be the same next time because organisation for the match will already be in progress.

    1975 was different because first and second in the Candidates had already played.

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