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    FIDE Online Chess regulations approved

    https://mcusercontent.com/6d944e9932...egulations.pdf

    includes regulations for Hybrid events.
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    I can see some fun and games (other than games of chess) when they start trying to apply those cheating provisions.

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    I think the auto-draw feature is a little interesting.

    5.4 The game is automatically drawn when:
    5.4.1 the same position appeared for the third time (as described in Article 9.2.2 of the FIDE Laws of Chess);
    5.4.2 the player to move has no legal move and his/her king is not in check. The game is said to end in
    ‘stalemate’;
    5.4.3 a position has arisen in which neither player can checkmate the opponent’s king with any series of
    legal moves;
    5.4.4 the last 50 moves by each player have been completed without the movement of any pawn and without
    any capture.
    Particularly in points 1 and 4, some sites I believe you have to click a draw button to claim the draw. Others it just happens automatically.
    So what's your excuse? For running like the devil's chasing you?

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    16.5 is quite interesting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    I think the auto-draw feature is a little interesting.



    Particularly in points 1 and 4, some sites I believe you have to click a draw button to claim the draw. Others it just happens automatically.
    Also, I could not see ''pre-move'' mentioned anywhere. RE draws, you are not supposed to offer draw twice in a row in OTB chess, so with ''Hybrid'' - I trust same rule applies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Also, I could not see ''pre-move'' mentioned anywhere. RE draws, you are not supposed to offer draw twice in a row in OTB chess, so with ''Hybrid'' - I trust same rule applies?
    3.6 The following additional options may be activated and used by the player:
    a) Smart move: the player may play his/her move by selecting a single square when a unique
    move can be done involving that square.
    b) Pre-move: the player enters his/her move before his/her opponent made his/her own move.
    The move is automatically executed on the board as an immediate response to the opponent’s move.
    c) Auto promotion to Queen: the player may set up the playing zone to force the promotion to
    a queen without being offered to choose the promoted piece.
    So what's your excuse? For running like the devil's chasing you?

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    9.8.2 looks a bit odd, a player having a forbidden device in the player zone potentially having a less severe penalty than losing seems unusual
    The slower I play the better I play, who would of thought?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Rout View Post
    I can see some fun and games (other than games of chess) when they start trying to apply those cheating provisions.
    Especially if 14.2 re player eye movement is considered evidence
    The slower I play the better I play, who would of thought?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Peirce View Post
    9.8.2 looks a bit odd, a player having a forbidden device in the player zone potentially having a less severe penalty than losing seems unusual
    This is the same as in the FIDE Laws and was put in for organisers who felt that defaulting a player for having a mobile phone on them was too harsh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    This is the same as in the FIDE Laws and was put in for organisers who felt that defaulting a player for having a mobile phone on them was too harsh.
    I must have misremembered, I thought that rule/option only applied to ringing mobile phone defaults
    The slower I play the better I play, who would of thought?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Peirce View Post
    I must have misremembered, I thought that rule/option only applied to ringing mobile phone defaults
    It applies in the standard Laws to "any electronic device not specifically approved by the arbiter in the playing venue."

    I see that the Online rules have this:

    9.8.1 During a game, a player is forbidden from having in the playing venue any electronic device which is
    not specifically approved by the arbiter. However, the regulations of an event may allow such devices to
    be stored very near to the playing area only as a help to provide backup internet.
    This means the regulations of the event may allow devices not specifically approved by the arbiter to be stored very near to the playing area for backup internet purposes. It would be interesting to know why this exemption exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Peirce View Post
    Especially if 14.2 re player eye movement is considered evidence
    What if I am meditating during the game? And what if I want to stand up from the board to stretch? and what if someone needs to go to the restroom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Also, I could not see ''pre-move'' mentioned anywhere. RE draws, you are not supposed to offer draw twice in a row in OTB chess, so with ''Hybrid'' - I trust same rule applies?
    Quote Originally Posted by Regulations for Online Chess
    5.4 The game is automatically drawn when:5.4.1the same position appeared for the third time (as described in Article 9.2.2 of the FIDE Laws of Chess)

    15.3 If a game is not drawn automatically when one of the situations described in Article 5.4(automatically drawn situations) has occurred, the arbiter will declare the game draw
    If you must press a button to claim, the server is non-compliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre Dénommée View Post
    If you must press a button to claim, the server is non-compliant.
    Quote Originally Posted by FIDE Online Chess Regulations
    Wherever possible, these Regulations are intended to be identical to the FIDE Laws of Chess and
    related FIDE competition regulations. They are intended for use by players and arbiters in official
    FIDE online competitions, and as a technical specification for online chess platforms hosting these
    competitions.
    As pointed out by Desmond and others, 5.4.1 and 5.4.4 in the FIDE Online Chess Regulations are variant from the FIDE Laws of Chess. As you would know, the FIDE Laws of Chess require a valid claim to be made by either player for a draw by `three-fold appearance' or `50 move rule'.

    The FIDE Online Chess Regulations do not require a claim for `three-fold appearance' or `50 move rule' by either player. Does anyone know whether there is a particular motivation for this change?

    My understanding is that on these two points, most online servers operate in accordance with the current FIDE Laws of Chess, but not with the FIDE Online Chess Regulations.
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    https://www.facebook.com/emil.sutovs...58482675149681
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