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    Lightbulb The Queen's Gambit (Netflix mini-series)

    Miniseries not movie: Walter Tevis' "The Queen's Gambit" is coming to Netflix for a 6-part miniseries in late October.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Miniseries not movie: Walter Tevis' "The Queen's Gambit" is coming to Netflix for a 6-part miniseries in late October.
    Interesting, but the book seems a bit dated now, since it was pre-Polgars and before the Soviet Union collapsed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Interesting, but the book seems a bit dated now, since it was pre-Polgars and before the Soviet Union collapsed.
    Agreed but that in a way makes it more important in that it captures the past - the psychological dark cloud could otherwise be lost. That also came out in Raymond Keene's article on Fischer not defending his title linked in Chess Whatever https://www.thearticle.com/piscator-...-bobby-fischer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Interesting, but the book seems a bit dated now, since it was pre-Polgars and before the Soviet Union collapsed.
    I took the opportunity during the shutdown to re-read some of my old books which I hadn't read for a while, and Queen's Gambit was one of them. Unfortunately my response was the same - it's Bobby Fischer with a happier ending. I can see the attraction of having a female protagonist, but strong female chessplayers are nowhere near as unusual as when the book was written. And movies have already been made about them - Queen of Katwe, for example. So that's one book I decided not to keep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    I took the opportunity during the shutdown to re-read some of my old books which I hadn't read for a while, and Queen's Gambit was one of them. Unfortunately my response was the same - it's Bobby Fischer with a happier ending. I can see the attraction of having a female protagonist, but strong female chessplayers are nowhere near as unusual as when the book was written. And movies have already been made about them - Queen of Katwe, for example. So that's one book I decided not to keep.
    On the other hand, it is currently rated at 100% Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, by both the viewers and the critics, and Anya Taylor-Joy is an excellent choice for the lead

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    Chess series on netflix

    Hi. Good chess series on Netflix. It is called. A Queen’s Gambit. Well worth a look. Seven episodes

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    Quite keen to see the Queens Gambit series but don't want to sign up to Netflix - not because I'd resent the cost but because I'd be annoyed at not having the time to make full use of it. [edit: I have been kindly assisted to view this series, so ignore this post now, ta.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    On the other hand, it is currently rated at 100% Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, by both the viewers and the critics, and Anya Taylor-Joy is an excellent choice for the lead
    The Ginger GM rates it well:

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    I have Netflix so I will watch The Queen's Gambit. Thanks , all, for the info in posts above.
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    The Queen's Gambit is a failure, they played far too quickly to be realistic. 1/10

    There is a lot more faults but I don't want to post spoilers.
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    Fascinating insight to playing back in the USSR…

    “Why, before her most critical game, did the radio in her hotel room not turn on at 2am, and stay on at full blast for an hour, as happened to me and other foreign players competing in the USSR? Why did Harmon discuss key variations about her adjourned final game over a hotel telephone line which was likely monitored?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by I don't know View Post
    The Queen's Gambit is a failure, they played far too quickly to be realistic. 1/10
    Mrs Ian's comments on the Ian Rogers review were "Is this a real person?" (I presume she meant Beth, not Ian) and "I expect you won't overlook the technical errors.".

    I haven't seen it yet; we don't have Netflix and I'll first wait to see if it comes up on some other platform. So I can't comment on how big an issue the speed of play is. But while I can see it's a problem showing chess at a lifelike pace considering that you would only be able to get half a game into a movie, if they are really showing the players speeding through the moves then I imagine the building of tension and drama is going to be compromised.

    Though if Kasparov and Pandolfini were advisers then I would hope any errors are actually deliberate.

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    Mrs Blunderbuss and I both enjoyed the Queens Gambit. My main issue was the impression given that it was possible for Beth and her mother to live comfortable from wining tournaments in 1960’s USA. In a recent Perpetual Chess podcast, Jan Timman recalled how in his early career he travelled from tournament to tournament in an old camper van. However, on one occasion his friends persuaded him to check into a hotel because it was 10 below zero outside and he was likely to freeze to death in the van. He says in the podcast (this happened in the days before credit cards, 70’s I think), that the worry of paying the bill at the end of the week concentrated his mind and he played better as a result. He won first prize but by all accounts he still only just had enough to cover the hotel bill.

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    My biggest issue with the miniseries is its deviations from the Novel. So far, anyway. Some things that rankle:

    * Beth's sexual abuse by Jolene is completely omitted - it makes for considerable complexity in their relationship later on and that will (presumably) be lacking - I'm not that far in yet.
    * Beth is supposed to be plain and unprepossessing. The actors playing her are, to put not too fine a point on it, striking.
    * The implication that Townes is a gay man considering cheating on his partner is not only not true to the novel but completely gratuitous.
    * Some of the dialogue from the novel appears in a slightly different context in the miniseries and ends up feeling more like fan service than anything else.

    Still liking it an awful lot so far, though. I am perfectly happy to suspend disbelief regarding some aspects of tournament chess as opposed to its portrayal here.

    Agadmator's Chess Channel (look it up on YouTube if you don't already know it) has some dissections of some of the games in the series, which have been drawn from real life master chess, including a fantastic game by (who else?) Rashid Nezhmetdinov.

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