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    Hay/Rubanraut conflict (sf RIP Trevor Hay)

    Quote Originally Posted by cathyc View Post
    It would be great if there was something on this forum by which to remember Trevor - there's a nice piece in the ACF newsletter, but surely there must be some tales to tell. I hung out with what was a bit of a gang in the mid-seventies, including Halpin, Max and others. I was unnerved by Trevor, but then, I was a kid. Others a bit older should have something more to say!
    Hi cathyc (and FM_Bill, triplecheck),

    A couple of tales and an update on the Hay-Rubanraut stoush.

    As an aside, Serge Rubanraut's surname sometimes was spelled Rubinraut, he changed his name by deed poll from Rubinraut. Another story.

    My last recollection of Trevor Hay was serendipitous, meeting him at a party in Balmain many years ago.
    I was assisting the host in the overcrowded kitchen when a request came for Tabasco and Worcester Sauce.
    "For the BBQ I asked?"
    No, some bloke in the backyard wants them for his beer!
    Aha! I then knew Trevor Hay must be present, the only guy I'd ever come across to so adulterate his beer!

    As usual he was relatively well dressed and affluent compared to the average chess player, softly spoken and urbane.
    He appeared not to work in the usual sense of a 9 to 5 job but mentioned his share trading as a source of wealth.
    Mention of an inheritance was an aha! moment.

    I always found him polite and respectful, almost shy.
    Perhaps he knew me as a friend of Serge's and was cautious?

    I was present at the incident which led to the banning of Rubanraut and at the events that led up to it.
    The events took place at the old Sydney Chess Centre in and outside the YMCA building. The building is
    long gone and replace by The Connaught nowadays.
    Serge and Trevor were both playing in a tournament, all or most games had finished except Serge's.

    Serge was one of those players who worked hard at the board rarely if ever getting up, immersed in the game with
    hands pressed over his ears. He often got into severe time-trouble but as a blitz whiz this did not matter too much.

    His score sheets were rarely of any use: a dozen or two moves only recorded then scratches to keep track of the number of moves made.

    In this particular game tension mounted as Serge's Q appeared trapped and he was going down and did eventually lose to the lower rated opponent.
    A large crowd were pressed around the table among them Trevor Hay who looked pleased with his rival's discomfort.

    There had been rivalry and antipathy between them for years.

    Several times Trevor had bumped Serge whilst he was engrossed in the tense struggle and severely short of time.
    Serge had expostulated: "Please, give me a bit of room!!"
    Trevor had replied: "Yes, we all know what a roomy player you are!"

    Apart from the ethics of talking to a player in this situation I thought it odd the way Trevor emphasized the word "roomy".
    Later it came out that "roomy" sounds also like "rheumy": Serge suffered from sinusitis and watery eyes which Trevor well knew and so had interpreted
    this as a snide insult.
    After the game Serge was seething with anger, Trevor beamed at his discomfort.

    At the closing of the club as happens players congregated, chatting outside the venue on Liverpool St.
    It was then that Serge confronted Trevor, uttered some profanities and basically king-hit him, knocking Trevor to the ground mouthing
    "So I'm a roomy ("rheumy") player am I?"

    Trevor though much taller than Serge was slightly built, Serge was stocky and muscular. As a schoolboy he had played hooker for
    the Sydney Boys High Firsts Rugby Union Team. Later he trained at Bernie Hall's boxing gym in Oxford St where Bernie himself
    thought Serge had potential. A mismatch.

    Trevor wore glasses and they were smashed as a result of the assault.
    The assault was cowardly and stupid and led to Serge's 5 year ban from competitive chess.

    With so little competitive chess behind him, Rubanraut's win of the title was remarkable: for Serge it was his last round win against
    Trevor Hay that clinched the title, bemusing.

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    The arbiter inside the hall should have expelled Hay from the hall a lot earlier then maybe the revenge and banning would not have occurred. I was expelled for my phone going off and that was unintentional.
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    I wonder why Hay didn't take legal action against Serge? Did he think was virtually quid pro quo with the five years suspension. Or the cops weren't that interested?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    The arbiter inside the hall should have expelled Hay from the hall a lot earlier then maybe the revenge and banning would not have occurred. I was expelled for my phone going off and that was unintentional.
    I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    I agree.
    Especially considering it was maybe the last game
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    I wonder why Hay didn't take legal action against Serge? Did he think was virtually quid pro quo with the five years suspension. Or the cops weren't that interested?
    Who told you that Hay did not take legal action against Rubanraut and that the police were not involved?

    Anyone who advised you of that was quite wrong on both counts.

    Serge was arrested and locked up: late in the evening two other chess players and I managed to arrange bail for Serge.

    As this is a thread about the passing of Trevor Hay I did not elaborate out of respect for that.

    If mods are agreeable I am happy to elaborate or perhaps create a new thread.

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    May i assure you that many members are awaiting complete details. Under current immigration law Serge maybe would face deportation.
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