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    The USA has now overtaken Belgium to have the second highest number of per capita cases, if you restrict the list to countries with more than 10 million people. If you include countries with more than one million, it's effectively tied for third - although it will be outright third in a few days.

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    One final viral infusion: Trump’s move to block travel from Europe triggered chaos and a surge of passengers from the outbreak’s center

    In the final days before the United States faced a full-blown epidemic, President Trump made a last-ditch attempt to prevent people infected with the coronavirus from reaching the country.

    “To keep new cases from entering our shores,” Trump said in an Oval Office address on March 11, “we will be suspending all travel from Europe to the United States for the next 30 days.” ...

    Harrowing scenes of interminable lines and unmasked faces crammed in confined spaces spread across social media.

    The images showed how a policy intended to block the pathogen’s entry into the United States instead delivered one final viral infusion. As those exposed travelers fanned out into U.S. cities and suburbs, they became part of an influx from Europe that went unchecked for weeks and helped to seal the country’s coronavirus fate. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    The USA has now overtaken Belgium to have the second highest number of per capita cases, if you restrict the list to countries with more than 10 million people. If you include countries with more than one million, it's effectively tied for third - although it will be outright third in a few days.
    I am having strong doubts Russia is not number 1. We have to bear in mind how they are trying to manipulate statistics, particularly in regional areas. At the same time, even many public figures, members of the Russian government (prime-minister included) are having it.
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    Current cases leaderboard from Wikipedia:

    (only top 50 shown)

    covid 29 May.png

    Since two weeks ago Australia has dropped from 51st to 63rd by confirmed case total. On confirmed deaths Australia has dropped from 66th to 70th.

    Brazil has now risen from sixth to second on confirmed cases and will soon move up from sixth on confirmed deaths.

    No new country has recorded its first case in the last two weeks.
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    Oh Yes Murrays is totally right on US Citizens Cramming international airports trying to get back to da States from all da European Countries thinking that da stupid Clown of a Prez was banning them as well as all non-US Citizens.......

    Lets go on and say that Arizona Never Really Shut down during this whole Staged Scene by Two Face Prez Thump n Gov.Ducey....They both say we are shutdown but really we ain't at all..... Thump says we have a Ban on China but really 13 flights a day are going to n from china each n every day since his so Called Ban on China.... Here In Arizona during our so called shut down over 50 industries were still open including golf coarses.... No Hotels or Airports shut down, Nothing really shutdown but this whole staged scene is for Thump n big biz to get rid of all their workers n go auto mode for da 21st century here in America....

    For example, Fast Food Industry must get rid of workers n under preforming stores n order to be more profitable By replacing workers w machines that make da food n such n blame it all on da Corona. Why not blame it on da corona n get rid of da workers it so plain n simple. Fast food Industry will also downsize their workforce by just going into drive thru only stores n da same with 7-11 n such all da way down da line in America.... Thump n da Government along with Big Biz will Use da Corona Pandemic as a crutch(an excuse) to Ushering in da Automation Age.... AUGH !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlesprout85 View Post
    Oh Yes Murrays is totally right on US Citizens Cramming international airports trying to get back to da States from all da European Countries thinking that da stupid Clown of a Prez was banning them as well as all non-US Citizens.......

    Lets go on and say that Arizona Never Really Shut down during this whole Staged Scene by Two Face Prez Thump n Gov.Ducey....They both say we are shutdown but really we ain't at all..... Thump says we have a Ban on China but really 13 flights a day are going to n from china each n every day since his so Called Ban on China.... Here In Arizona during our so called shut down over 50 industries were still open including golf coarses.... No Hotels or Airports shut down, Nothing really shutdown but this whole staged scene is for Thump n big biz to get rid of all their workers n go auto mode for da 21st century here in America....

    For example, Fast Food Industry must get rid of workers n under preforming stores n order to be more profitable By replacing workers w machines that make da food n such n blame it all on da Corona. Why not blame it on da corona n get rid of da workers it so plain n simple. Fast food Industry will also downsize their workforce by just going into drive thru only stores n da same with 7-11 n such all da way down da line in America.... Thump n da Government along with Big Biz will Use da Corona Pandemic as a crutch(an excuse) to Ushering in da Automation Age.... AUGH !!!!!

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    The bosses are exploiting here in Australia as well. They are downsizing their trading figures, purchasing figures etc and claiming that their business is down by 30%, that enables them to have the employee's salary subsided by the government $750 per week. The workers are supposed to be at home evading the virus but often are made to work. So the boss gets free labour.
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    Arbitrary rules, safety theatre, and rulers being exempt from their own rules

    It is one thing to advise wearing masks and social distancing, which I practise, and I'm still working from home. It is another to make rules that seem to have nothing to do with making us safer, but are rather safety theatre and dress rehearsal for how much despotism Americans will stand. When the rulers don't live by their rules, like chefs not eating their own cooking, we know it's not really about safety.

    E.g. James Mainer of HCL Deluxe Tan in Clay City successfully sued Governor Pritzker's lockdown regime in Illinois. The ruling by Clay County judge Michael McHaney was classic:

    Since the inception of this insanity, the following regulations, rules or consequences have occurred: I won't get COVID if I get an abortion but I will get COVID if I get a colonoscopy. Selling pot is essential but selling goods and services at a family-owned business is not. Pot wasn't even legal and pot dispensaries didn't even exist in this state until five months ago and, in that five months, they have become essential but a family-owned business in existence for five generations is not.

    A family of six can pile in their car and drive to Carlyle Lake without contracting COVID but, if they all get in the same boat, they will. We are told that kids rarely contract the virus and sunlight kills it, but summer youth programs, sports programs are cancelled. Four people can drive to the golf course and not get COVID but, if they play in a foursome, they will. If I go to Walmart, I won't get COVID but, if I go to church, I will. Murderers are released from custody while small business owners are threatened with arrest if they have the audacity to attempt to feed their families.

    These are just a few of examples of rules, regulations and consequences that are arbitrary, capricious, and completely devoid of anything even remotely approaching common sense.

    The defendant in this case orders you to stay home and pronounces that, if you leave the state, you are putting people in danger, but his family members traveled to Florida and Wisconsin because he deems such travel essential. One initial rationale why the rules don't apply to him is that his family farm had animals that needed fed. Try selling that argument to farmers who have had to slaughter their herds because of disruption in the supply chain.

    When laws do not apply to those who make them, people are not being governed, they are being ruled. Make no mistake, these executive orders are not laws. They are royal decrees. Illinois citizens are not being governed, they are being ruled. The last time I checked Illinois citizens are also Americans and Americans don't get ruled. The last time a monarch tried to rule Americans, a shot was fired that was heard around the world. That day led to the birth of a nation consensually governed based upon a document which ensures that on this day in this, any American courtroom tyrannical despotism will always lose and liberty, freedom and the constitution will always win.
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    Capa your last para describes Trump exactly. Hr claims that because he is Chief Idiot no action can be taken against him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    It is one thing to advise wearing masks and social distancing, which I practise, and I'm still working from home. It is another to make rules that seem to have nothing to do with making us safer, but are rather safety theatre and dress rehearsal for how much despotism Americans will stand. When the rulers don't live by their rules, like chefs not eating their own cooking, we know it's not really about safety.

    E.g. James Mainer of HCL Deluxe Tan in Clay City successfully sued Governor Pritzker's lockdown regime in Illinois. The ruling by Clay County judge Michael McHaney was classic:]
    It's just insane. Back home in Qld the premier is saying the state borders will remain closed until other states have 0 new cases for weeks - a condition that may never be met. Thankfully there's an election coming.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    It's just insane. Back home in Qld the premier is saying the state borders will remain closed until other states have 0 new cases for weeks - a condition that may never be met. Thankfully there's an election coming.
    I don't think it's insane to follow the advice of Qld's Chief Health Officer and keep restrictions on interstate travel. Opening the border against medical advice and triggering an outbreak just before an election would definitely be insane for any politician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    It is one thing to advise wearing masks and social distancing, which I practise, and I'm still working from home. It is another to make rules that seem to have nothing to do with making us safer, but are rather safety theatre and dress rehearsal for how much despotism Americans will stand. When the rulers don't live by their rules, like chefs not eating their own cooking, we know it's not really about safety. ...
    How many lives have been saved by opening tanning salons - compared to keeping them closed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    I don't think it's insane to follow the advice of Qld's Chief Health Officer and keep restrictions on interstate travel. Opening the border against medical advice and triggering an outbreak just before an election would definitely be insane for any politician.
    I read this morning that the estimated lost revenue from interstate tourism is $2b. Tourism operators vote.

    Quite happy to take odds on Palaszuk maintaining the line against growing unrest until the election if you like?
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    Quite happy to take odds on Palaszuk maintaining the line against growing unrest until the election if you like?
    I did say "against medical advice". The CHO is suggesting that the border could reopen in September, while the election is scheduled for October.

    If you're arguing that the government will reopen the border against the advice of the CHO, I might be interested in the odds

    This is the LNP's plan. It's a bit more optimistic than Palaszczuk's, but they seem just as committed to following the advice of the CHO.

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    Chief Justice Roberts sides with the "progressive" SCOTUS judges and kills off an attempt by a California church to have COVID restrictions on public gatherings removed:

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...a1044_pok0.pdf
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