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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    Just when you thought it was safe to step out the door

    Omicron: everything you need to know about new Covid variant
    Borders closed with several countries for now...at leat not the ones that send/recieve a lot of people from Australia.
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    https://www.bitchute.com/video/vET2E4xW6Gmp/
    Linking new variants to vaccinations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Borders closed with several countries for now...at leat not the ones that send/recieve a lot of people from Australia.
    Selective border closures don't work - as we saw in 2020. As the variant has now been detected in Europe and the UK (and China), it's probably time for Australia to close international borders completely - at least until it's clear how serious the new variant is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Selective border closures don't work - as we saw in 2020. As the variant has now been detected in Europe and the UK (and China), it's probably time for Australia to close international borders completely - at least until it's clear how serious the new variant is.
    I agree. While there are so many unknowns and this new variant could even be a good thing (highly infectious but far less deadly) caution should come first so that if ends up being significantly worse and vaccines are less effective then we have kept it out.

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    Biden's hypocrisy on border closures

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Selective border closures don't work — as we saw in 2020. As the variant has now been detected in Europe and the UK (and China), it's probably time for Australia to close international borders completely - at least until it's clear how serious the new variant is.
    It's interesting that Biden has applied selective border closure to African countries, while he denounced Trump for doing the same.
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    On the so-called Omicron variant

    This new variant with 32 mutations should alphabetically be named the Xi variant, but WHO are puppets of the genocidal Communist Chinese regime—their tweet helping the CCP downplay the virus' high infectivity probably cost millions of lives.

    Some good news: the variant seems to be mild, and has not yet been shown that it can evade vaccine-induced immunity:

    “The new Omicron variant of the Coronavirus results in MILD disease, WITHOUT prominent symptoms.” -Angelique Coetzee, the chairwoman of the South African Medical Association.

    "It presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well. So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some are currently being treated at home.” Hospitals have NOT been overburdened by Omicron patients and the new strain has not been detected in vaccinated individuals there. We know those vaccinated from other countries infected have been mild or asymptomatic.

    After all, T-cells have about 100 targets to attack on the so-called spike protein, and there is a limit to how many copying errors it can stand before it will no longer be able to infect cells. Memory B-cells are designed to adapt to the attacking variant.

    Both Pfizer and Moderna claim that they could fairly quickly make RNA vaccines that can target variants. As expected, this “new era of vaccine technology” can do this much quicker than with traditional vaccines that needed to culture the whole pathogen.
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    Lots of copying, not vaccines, produce variants

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    Linking new variants to vaccinations.
    This doesn't make scientific sense though. Vaccines do NOT create variants. Mutations aka copying mistakes do. So it stands to reason that the more copying, the more chance for mutations. So they are more likely to arise in unvaccinated people, whose adaptive immune systems are not trained to destroy the virus before it has a chance to copy much. Not surprisingly, variants arose before mass vaccination in the countries involved. Delta arose in India 3 months before the country's vaccination program. The Omicron variant arose in a poorly vaccinated area.

    At best, vaccines might select variants, which arose from previous copying, for vaccine evasion. But the evidence that ‘leaky’ vaccines provide selection pressure in the real world for vaccine-evasive pathogens is slight to non-existent. It hasn't happened with the vaccines routinely given to kids, and the usual example involves a chicken vaccine against Marek's disease, although the vaccine is still a life-saver and the evidence for selection pressure is equivocal. See this critique of Geert Vanden Bossche, a Belgian veterinarian who has made similar claims, and dismisses the virus that has killed over 5M people as “harmless”.

    Also, none of the variants are good at evading adaptive immune systems of fully vaccinated individuals. A few months ago, One paper Effectiveness of Covid-19 Vaccines against the B.1.617.2 (Delta) Variant (NEJM 21 Jul 2021) said:

    Effectiveness after one dose of vaccine (BNT162b2 [Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA vaccine] or ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 [Oxford–AstraZeneca]) was notably lower among persons with the delta variant (30.7%; 95% confidence interval [CI], 25.2 to 35.7) than among those with the alpha variant (48.7%; 95% CI, 45.5 to 51.7); the results were similar for both vaccines. With the BNT162b2 vaccine, the effectiveness of two doses was 93.7% (95% CI, 91.6 to 95.3) among persons with the alpha variant and 88.0% (95% CI, 85.3 to 90.1) among those with the delta variant. With the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine, the effectiveness of two doses was 74.5% (95% CI, 68.4 to 79.4) among persons with the alpha variant and 67.0% (95% CI, 61.3 to 71.8) among those with the delta variant.

    Similarly, there is no evidence yet that Omicron can evade vaccine-induced immunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    This doesn't make scientific sense though. Vaccines do NOT create variants. Mutations aka copying mistakes do. So it stands to reason that the more copying, the more chance for mutations. So they are more likely to arise in unvaccinated people, whose adaptive immune systems are not trained to destroy the virus before it has a chance to copy much. Not surprisingly, variants arose before mass vaccination in the countries involved. Delta arose in India 3 months before the country's vaccination program. The Omicron variant arose in a poorly vaccinated area.
    I agree completely. That's why we want as many people as possible vaccinated. By the way, the variant before Omicron was Mu, so the next variant should have been called "Nu", not "Xi" or "Omicron".

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    will be disasterous if there are more lockdowns as a result as well as border closures
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    And already, delays to student and visitor arrivals to Australia...we are going back and forth.
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    Sprout be Battled Tested . . .. Crispy . .. . . . Very Tired.....Reporting once again from da front lines on this war against da plague here in Arizona. Grim News n Nothing Good to Report from Arizona on this day tue/nov/30th/2021.

    1 outta every 2 people will catch da corona virus. Slowly but surly this plague will work its way right thru each n every family. Its So Stupid to even bother anymore on Doing Anything to prevent da plague from walking right up to ur doorstep. Sprout has took all da proper safety measures for da past 21 months n is now is living with da Delta Varient of Corona Virus Right inside ems own House AUGH !!!!! (Sprouts stripper girlfriend finally brought da plague home to ems.....da horror) So There goes da whole Setup Sprout had in place n now Meh own Personal Pod(safety zone) is Gone...Nowhere is Safe Anymore in Sprouts World to even Catch a Breath of Fresh Air..... AUGH !!!!(Sprout is masked up as ems types frantically away at da keys trying to be quick about it in ems office) Sprout now knows why Heaviest Knight is All Masked up in Ems home Office....No Wheres Safe Anymore m8's........Same Thing has Happened once again at Sprouty workplace(Local emergency Hospital) in which Sprouts safe zone(Pod) has been taking over by da corona virus. Personal Friends All Have Da Delta Varient now n Its Just Plain Grim on how Everyone continues to Live it up n go out wild n free, mask-less to boot. All out acting like nothing will hurt them because they are fully vaxed.... Sproutys Stripper GF is Fully Vaxed n Where did that get her but locked up iso in a bedroom in sproutys House AUGH !!!!

    Heard last week locally that Merck has over exaggerated their new anti corona pill effectiveness. according to da FDA review da New Merck Pill is only 30% effective in keeping people outta da Hospitals.... WTF !!!! Now FDA might just not approve da new Merck Pill due to this new info...grrrr This isn't promising news this week at all.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlesprout85 View Post
    Sprout be Battled Tested . . .. Crispy . .. . . . Very Tired.....Reporting once again from da front lines on this war against da plague here in Arizona. Grim News n Nothing Good to Report from Arizona on this day tue/nov/30th/2021.

    1 outta every 2 people will catch da corona virus. Slowly but surly this plague will work its way right thru each n every family. Its So Stupid to even bother anymore on Doing Anything to prevent da plague from walking right up to ur doorstep. Sprout has took all da proper safety measures for da past 21 months n is now is living with da Delta Varient of Corona Virus Right inside ems own House AUGH !!!!! (Sprouts stripper girlfriend finally brought da plague home to ems.....da horror) So There goes da whole Setup Sprout had in place n now Meh own Personal Pod(safety zone) is Gone...Nowhere is Safe Anymore in Sprouts World to even Catch a Breath of Fresh Air..... AUGH !!!!(Sprout is masked up as ems types frantically away at da keys trying to be quick about it in ems office) Sprout now knows why Heaviest Knight is All Masked up in Ems home Office....No Wheres Safe Anymore m8's........Same Thing has Happened once again at Sprouty workplace(Local emergency Hospital) in which Sprouts safe zone(Pod) has been taking over by da corona virus. Personal Friends All Have Da Delta Varient now n Its Just Plain Grim on how Everyone continues to Live it up n go out wild n free, mask-less to boot. All out acting like nothing will hurt them because they are fully vaxed.... Sproutys Stripper GF is Fully Vaxed n Where did that get her but locked up iso in a bedroom in sproutys House AUGH !!!!

    Heard last week locally that Merck has over exaggerated their new anti corona pill effectiveness. according to da FDA review da New Merck Pill is only 30% effective in keeping people outta da Hospitals.... WTF !!!! Now FDA might just not approve da new Merck Pill due to this new info...grrrr This isn't promising news this week at all.....

    -Sprout85
    Damn you Sprouty having a stripper girl friend. Make me so envious. I am sure you are aware of Billy Joel's advice Only The Good Die Young so don't worry about the virus - you and her will live forever. Jim Morrison would sing Come on baby light my fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlesprout85 View Post
    Sprout be Battled Tested . . .. Crispy . .. . . . Very Tired.....Reporting once again from da front lines on this war against da plague here in Arizona. Grim News n Nothing Good to Report from Arizona on this day tue/nov/30th/2021.
    Hard times, my friend. I'm feeling your pain - hang in there

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