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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    They use Biblical references to identify sites where oil is likely to be found. But they use conventional geology to actually locate the oil - like every other oil company.
    If they state that it is only a con. They would not waste good money being led up the garden path by Capa mates.
    Have the teutonic plates slowed down colliding since the early days 6,000 years ago when there must have been an earthquake a day?
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    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Why indeed? This shows that you should get your information about history from real historians, not from movies or junk sources like Draper or White. Sailors knew even better than most that the earth is round:

    • They could see hills before the beach when coming into shore, although the beach is closer, because the beach is more hidden by the curvature,
    • They used the crow's nest to see further than you can see from the deck, again because you can see further past the curve.
    • They used the North celestial pole, or just approximated it with the North Star, for navigation, because its angle to the horizon = latitude, a geometry that requires a spherical earth.

    Most people would have seen the round shadow of the earth on the moon during a lunar eclipse, no matter where the moon was in the sky. This is possible only if a sphere is casting the shadow.
    Isn't this last point that got atheopath Galileo into trouble with the Holy Inquisition? There is a hole in the bucket dear Capa
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    Catholic Church took the side of the science of its day against Galileo

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    Isn't this last point that got atheopath Galileo into trouble with the Holy Inquisition? There is a hole in the bucket dear Capa
    For goodness' sake, stop confusing the shape of the earth with its motion. The Galileo debate was about the latter; both sides, the geocentric and the heliocentric, knew full well that the earth is nearly a perfect sphere. Galileo was also no atheopath, as can be seen from his famous Letter to the Grand Duchess Christina of Tuscany, explaining how the heliocentric view was compatible with the doctrines of the Catholic Church. Galileo's problem was that most astronomers of his day opposed heliocentrism because of the long tradition of Aristotle's physics and Ptolemy's astronomy—Aristotle was simply known "the Philosopher", and Ptolemy's Syntaxis was known as Almagest, an Arabic rendering of the Greek for "the greatest". Only about a dozen astronomers from Copernicus' time to Galileo supported Copernicanism.

    Astronomers of his day realized that Galileo's discoveries of the phases of Venus and moons of Jupiter destroyed Ptolemaic geocentrism, but could be explained by Tycho Brahe's geo-heliocentric hybrid system. This has the sun, moon, and stars revolving around the earth, and the planets revolving around the sun.

    After Galileo, Jesuit priest and astronomer Giovanni Battista Riccioli (1598–1671) wrote Almagestum Novum (New Almagest, 1651) that weighed the Copernican and Tychonian model, mainly using science, and found that the science of his day supported the Tychnonian system. Note that this was before Newtonian physics came decisively in favour of a barycentric model of the solar system, and several of Riccioli's strong arguments against Copernicanism could not be answered until the 19th century. Physicist and historian of science Dr Christopher Graney wrote Setting Aside All Authority: Giovanni Battista Riccioli and the Science against Copernicus in the Age of Galileo, pointing out that it's sometimes instructive to look at what became the losing side of a debate, if they were using the best science available to them.
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