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    Democrats propose unattractive policies that would ruin Americans' standard of living

    Oh, So That's How Many Electoral Votes Trump Will Clinch in 2020
    Matt Vespa, 19 Oct 2019

    Job creation is solid with over three million jobs created. Paychecks are larger. Consumer and small business confidence have reached their highest marks in years. The economy is booming. And if the recent Democratic debate showed you anything, it’s that the economic growth we’re seeing would be torpedoed. The Democrats want to give health care to illegals, promote open borders, bash cops, increase taxes, force everyone on government health care, coupled with massive tax increases, confiscate guns, and permit abortion up until the moment of birth on the taxpayer dime. Yeah, it’s a debate between freedom and slavery—and the Left argues the latter as some great alternative to Trump. Oh, and Medicare for All, which is what Democrats now endorse, would cannibalize all private health insurance plans. That’s around 150 million plans. So, for all the conniption fits about the GOP taking away people’s health care, well—the Democrats are the ones actually proposing that this year and thinking it’s a popular and economically sound policy. So, would it shock you, given the left-wing Democratic agenda that will thrust economic destitution upon many, that we have a 2020 projection where Trump wins re-election handily?
    “The destructive capacity of the individual, however vicious, is small; of the state, however well-intentioned, almost limitless. Expand the state and that destructive capacity necessarily expands, too, pari passu.”—Paul Johnson, Modern Times, 1983.

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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    Well, most americans don't approve of the job Trump is doing. Only 41.5% approve (538).
    It's much worse for Trump than that - 49.3%, which is a plurality (and just below a majority), support impeaching Trump!

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    After backlash, Trump says his Doral resort won’t host G-7 summit
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    After days of relentless criticism, President Donald Trump abruptly reversed course late Saturday when he announced he would scrap plans to hold next year’s G-7 gathering of world leaders at one of his family’s resorts.

    Trump made the change after members of Congress and government ethics experts accused him of violating the Constitution by holding the summit at his financially struggling Trump National Doral Miami resort....

    It was a rare about-face for Trump on his businesses. He has spent nearly three years in office insisting he is allowed to visit and promote his properties around the globe. But his decision to hold the G-7 at Doral brought him criticism from even pundits on Fox News, his favorite television network and a growing number of his own party — the same lawmakers he needs to help him fight impeachment. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    It's much worse for Trump than that - 49.3%, which is a plurality (and just below a majority), support impeaching Trump!
    Lets see what happens at the next election...whether democratically elected Trump will get democratically elected once again or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Lets see what happens at the next election...whether democratically elected Trump will get democratically elected once again or not
    Actually he was undemocratically elected due to him receiving 2.9m votes less than Hillary. He is actually elected by the electoral college that is itself elected on rigged boundaries by Republican states. It is a very flawed version of democracy. One vote does not have one value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Actually he was undemocratically unelected
    logically that means he was democratically elected!
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    I don't know or recall how that second "un" got in there but now has been edited out. thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Actually he was undemocratically elected due to him receiving 2.9m votes less than Hillary. He is actually elected by the electoral college that is itself elected on rigged boundaries by Republican states. It is a very flawed version of democracy. One vote does not have one value.
    Whinging about the voting system that both ran on is like a chessplayer whinging about losing through checkmate even though he captured more pieces.
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    Congress should declare war if they want troops to stay. Trump did NOT betray Kurds.

    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Yesterday 2/3 of Republicans voted to censure Trump for his treachery.
    Here is a solution for them and all the Democrats whinging about Trump's pullout as he promised he would do: declare war! Such declarations are constitutionally the province of Congress not the President. If they declare war, then troops will have to go in. But of course they won't, because of the political fallout. But if they won't, then why should our troops shed blood over there?

    Anyway, see:

    Trump didn’t sell out the Kurds by pulling out of Syria
    By Kenneth R. Timmerman, NY Post, 19 Oct 2019

    The national media blasted President Trump’s withdrawal of 50 US military advisors from the Syrian border with Turkey as a “sellout,” a “betrayal” and a “huge strategic blunder.”

    Let’s be clear: None of them truly care about the Kurds. Otherwise, they would have been sending correspondents and camera crews to Rojava, as the Kurds call northern Syria, on a regular basis.

    But let’s be clear about US goals, too. Our advisors were not in northern Syria to defend a Kurdish government but to fight ISIS. The fight to smash the ISIS caliphate is over, and we won.

    No US administration has ever bought into Kurdish national aspirations. Even the pro-Kurdish ex-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who was a long-time investor in Kurdish oil, warned Iraqi Kurds to cancel a planned referendum on independence in September 2017.

    I have met with Kurdish political and military leaders in the region, including the PYD, the political arm of the Kurdish YPG militia. And while they were thrilled to have US backing in the fight against ISIS, none of them had any illusions about the US coming to their aid should Turkey attack.

    Did the president’s critics really believe he should have considered those 50 US soldiers as a “tripwire” that would trigger a massive US military invasion of Syria to fight against Turkey — our NATO ally?

    The president has taken concrete, immediate steps to shame and to punish Erdogan for his outrageous violation of the North Atlantic charter, which calls on member states to “settle any international disputes in which they may be involved by peaceful means … and to refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.”

    The Kurds are paying a heavy price in this battle — not because of a US betrayal — but because they remain stateless and thus powerless. By targeting Erdogan financially, legally and undermining his legitimacy, President Trump has done more to help the Kurds than his critics with their crocodile tears. And for now, he is winning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Whinging about the voting system that both ran on is like a chessplayer whinging about losing through checkmate even though he captured more pieces.
    Not entirely - the suggestion is the game has become somewhat skewed in one side's favour, eg see https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ctoral-college

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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    I don't know or recall how that second "un" got in there but now has been edited out. thanks.
    any time boss, keep up the good work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Here is a solution for them and all the Democrats whinging about Trump's pullout as he promised he would do: declare war! Such declarations are constitutionally the province of Congress not the President. If they declare war, then troops will have to go in. But of course they won't, because of the political fallout. But if they won't, then why should our troops shed blood over there? ...
    Who would Congress declare war on? The country killing the Kurds is Turkey, so presumably you're suggesting that the US should declare war on Turkey. As Turkey is a NATO member, that would mean declaring war on NATO, so the US (a member of NATO) would be declaring war on itself! And what if Trump refused to order the troops to go in? The only solution would be impeachment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Whinging about the voting system that both ran on is like a chessplayer whinging about losing through checkmate even though he captured more pieces.
    No it is more like the chess board being titled up wards so the Dems need more power (votes) to achieve equality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    I agree, which is why I think it was probably a mistake for the Dems to do it. If not a mistake at least highly risky.
    I'm replying on the more relevant thread, to point out that by impeaching Trump, the Democrats are also helping to protect the US from further (and possibly worse) abuses of power by him (and future Presidents). He has already had to abandon a clear violation of the emoluments clause of the US Constitution (hosting the G-7 at his resort) due to the threat of impeachment over it. So impeachment is definitely worth doing, even if it doesn't result in a conviction, for that reason alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    No it is more like the chess board being titled up wards so the Dems need more power (votes) to achieve equality.
    If you are referring to gerrymandering, this is unfortunately as old as the founding of the USA itself, and both parties have exploited this. Anyway, there is another thread where this was discussed.

    But in this case, it means that Hillary has only herself to blame for racking up a supermajority in CA while totally neglecting some of the states that went for Trump despite going for Obama twice. It is like a chess player plundering Q-side Ps while his K is getting mated.
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