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    Quote Originally Posted by Garvinator View Post
    There has been some commentary on the 'lack' of players over 2400 in this event. As of 2019, Australia has a record 7 GM's, and I have included 2598! 0 WA Kuybokarov, Temur [GM] in that list.

    But looking at the Top Open players rating list, reveals what I think is a concerning trend, and also can help to explain why the numbers for the 2020 Australia Championship are not great at the top end.



    GM David Smerdon would be in the above list, except that he is living overseas and so not active in Australia.
    Often the attendance of top players comes down to timing and conditions offered. This applies to championship events as well as many weekenders.

    Also GM David Smerdon has been living back in Brisbane for over 2 years and has played a few events even in the last couple of months including Gardiner Chrss Gold coast Blitz and TopChess Christmas Weekender. For him and Zong-Yuan I believe family life and professional pursuits limit their availability at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun94 View Post
    Also GM David Smerdon has been living back in Brisbane for over 2 years and has played a few events even in the last couple of months including Gardiner Chrss Gold coast Blitz and TopChess Christmas Weekender.
    Thank you for this correction. Must have missed the information on Facebook. I will update my post accordingly. These corrections do help to provide a clearer picture of what is happening, so if any other of my information from other posters needs updating, feel free to let me know on here or via private message.
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    If we assume that top players are to treat chess professionally, unless offered decent conditions by organisers, why should they play? Any incentive?
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    I guess that for top chess players to be treated professionally, the organizers would have to be professions. How much are the people who organize these tournaments paid?

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    Thanks Kevin

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    Posts about the Koshnitsky Medal to be presented during the prizegiving, among other ACF medals, have been moved here: http://www.chesschat.org/showthread....shnitsky-Medal

    As a past winner of the Koshnitsky Medal in 2011 you, more than most, appreciate the importance of giving some sort of recognition to the people who do most of the hard work in chess. Where would chess be
    without the, soon to be 38, winners of the Koshnitsky Medal. Your work in maintaining Chess Chat is an invaluable contribution to the chess community.

    Thanks also for creating a whole new thread devoted to the Koshnitsky Medal and also for creating a Queensland Chess History thread separate from the History of the Brisbane Chess Club thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbishop View Post
    I guess that for top chess players to be treated professionally, the organizers would have to be professions. How much are the people who organize these tournaments paid?
    I am not criticising the organisers but simply pointing out that there is no point for professionals or aspiring professionals-to-be to play in events where they do not get conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbishop View Post
    I guess that for top chess players to be treated professionally, the organizers would have to be professions. How much are the people who organize these tournaments paid?
    I disagree with the claim that organisers have to be paid to host a high-quality Championships (although obviously it would help) but with respect to your question, organisers are generally volunteers. As one of the organisers of the 2018 edition I can say that it takes an enormous effort from both the organising team and the ACF Selections Committee headed by Kevin to run this festival, so I'm grateful to those willing to take it on.

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    I entered several days ago not sure why the entry list doesn't reflect this?! It appears to have been altered/updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brodie View Post
    I entered several days ago not sure why the entry list doesn't reflect this?! It appears to have been altered/updated.
    Lots of people want you to bring the title to QLD!
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    Tournaments like this should be held over 9 days or which 5 are work days (Saturday to following Sunday).
    This allows for players to take minimal time off work.

    If you want higher rated players to play, offer them the Olympiad incentive.
    This will encourage those 2400-2500 players to complete not only for the Australian Champion Title but for the rights to represent the country.
    As it stands now IMs/GMs rated 2400-2500 have a historically low chance of being selected to represent Australia in the Olympiad.
    And before you say, what happens if a lower rated person has a super performance and wins the event, have a look at the past winners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlairMandla View Post
    If you want higher rated players to play, offer them the Olympiad incentive.
    This will encourage those 2400-2500 players to complete not only for the Australian Champion Title but for the rights to represent the country.
    It's not so unusual for top players to bypass their own national championship. Off the top of my head the 2019 Russian final was missing Grischuk, Nepo, Karjakin and Svidler.

    Of course Australia is not Russia. But in another sport where Australia is Australia, the national soccer coach apparently wants players to play in the EPL or equivalent to be considered for the national team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    It is - though still a few more days to go so hope there might be more.

    Interesting to keep an eye on comparisons with 2018, since both were in Sydney, but this year is one day longer in the Champs and Reserves:

    Champs entries - 2018 34, 2020 19 at present
    Reserves - 2018 100, 2020 88 at present
    Classic - 2018 65, 2020 47 at present

    I'd wait for final numbers before drawing any conclusions.
    Now showing: Champs 20, Reserves 101, Classic 53. However I'd still wait until we see the final numbers tomorrow!
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