View Poll Results: Who will win the Democratic primaries (2019–20)

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  • Joe Biden

    3 25.00%
  • Bernie Sanders

    4 33.33%
  • Elizabeth Warren

    2 16.67%
  • Kamala Harris - OUT

    0 0%
  • Pete Buttigieg

    3 25.00%
  • Robert Francis ‘Beto’ O'Rourke - OUT

    0 0%
  • Cory Booker - OUT

    0 0%
  • Amy Klobuchar

    0 0%
  • Andrew Yang - OUT

    0 0%
  • Julián Castro - OUT

    0 0%
  • Tom Steyer

    0 0%
  • Tulsi Gabbard

    0 0%
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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    My mare Elizabeth, who has breathed fire and brimstone, is performing better than your stallion Buttigieg but I doubt they will both be productive .
    Savage

    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    That is a classic and now maybe BB has rescinded the NDA if the victims so desire. Big on his part but he will be exposing the meat for the cats.
    Last edited by antichrist; 25-02-2020 at 03:02 PM.
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    I hope Bernie wins it and he chooses Elizabeth as running mate. What a combo. Bernie deserved it for being a warrior for half a century at a guess. And Warren has many runs on the board
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    “Donald Trump wants to run against Bernie Sanders…and that’ll be the end of the American republic.”

    Columnist Eric Alterman says a Trump/Sanders Presidential race would be a ‘disaster’ for the Democrats and he is scared for the future of his country. twitter.com/Channel4News

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    oddest couple!

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    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Re above post I think Bernie was referring to mysogonomy, not a blight on womanhood. Look how anti-women Trump was and white women still voted for him instead of a much more capable woman
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    Republican establishment is jealous of Trump's success and record of achievements

    Don't care. They are jealous that President Trump bypassed the Republican establishment to achieve things they couldn't. This includes:

    • Moved the Israel embassy to its capital, which previous presidents promised but reneged
    • Passed major tax reform, which brought lots of money back to the USA, and enabled companies to hire more people and pay higher wages
    • Led to record low unemployment, including blacks
    • Appointed almost 200 originalist judges
    • Made America self-sufficient in energy instead of being dependent on Islamofascist despots, thanks to the fracking revolution, and at the same time reduced CO₂ emissions unlike the signatories to the fraudulent Paris accord
    • Reduced funding to Planned Parenthood, which the Republican establishment talked about when in opposition but have no intention of doing so in government
    • Killed top terrorist leaders without starting new wars
    • Repealed Obamacare by removing the mandate in the tax reform, which the Republican establishment reneged on after campaigning against it for years
    • Slashed economy-strangling red tape and reigned in unaccountable bureaucrats
    • Promoted religious freedom
    • Promoted school choice that enables more kills to escape failing government schools
    • Signed criminal justice and rehabilitation reforms, and commuted life sentences for non-violent drug crimes, and undid a lot of damage that Biden's overcriminalization did to the black community.


    Unlike the Republican establishment, I judge actions higher than words.
    “The destructive capacity of the individual, however vicious, is small; of the state, however well-intentioned, almost limitless. Expand the state and that destructive capacity necessarily expands, too, pari passu.”—Paul Johnson, Modern Times, 1983.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    I hope Bernie wins it and he chooses Elizabeth as running mate. What a combo. Bernie deserved it for being a warrior for half a century at a guess. And Warren has many runs on the board
    So you are OK with Sanders' defence of the mass murderer Castro? Wow, so Castro improved illiteracy (which actually was already very high)—yeah, made a difference to people who could read the obituaries of their loved ones shot by Castro's thugs. Sanders also honeymooned in the Soviet Gulag State and loved it.
    “The destructive capacity of the individual, however vicious, is small; of the state, however well-intentioned, almost limitless. Expand the state and that destructive capacity necessarily expands, too, pari passu.”—Paul Johnson, Modern Times, 1983.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    So you are OK with Sanders' defence of the mass murderer Castro? Wow, so Castro improved illiteracy (which actually was already very high)—yeah, made a difference to people who could read the obituaries of their loved ones shot by Castro's thugs. Sanders also honeymooned in the Soviet Gulag State and loved it.
    Well many of those Latino refugees in Florida from Cuba just gave Sanders an arousing victory so as my mate ER says go figure. I lean to believing Sanders more on this as these Latinos would know first hand the truth. Not some nutty right wing site like Alex Bolt who states that Sandy Hook school massacre was faked using child actors. I finally know who that guy is and what Info Wars is about. Your belief in conspiracies is just as nutty. But I still love you
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    Sanders is simply wrong about Cuba, both in education and healthcare

    No, Fidel Castro Didn't Improve Health Care or Education in Cuba
    Cuba has made less educational and health care progress than most Latin American countries over the last 60 years, data show.
    Hans Bader, FEE, 25 Feb 2020

    But Castro did not give Cubans literacy. Cuba already had one of the highest literacy rates in Latin America by 1950, nearly a decade before Castro took power, according to United Nations data (statistics from UNESCO). In 2016, the Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler debunked a politician’s claim that Castro’s rule significantly improved Cuban healthcare and education.

    In today’s Cuba, children are taught by poorly paid teachers in dilapidated schools. Cuba has made less educational progress than most Latin American countries over the last 60 years.

    According to UNESCO, Cuba had about the same literacy rate as Costa Rica and Chile in 1950 (close to 80 percent). And it has almost the same literacy rate as they do today (close to 100 percent).

    Meanwhile, Latin American countries that were largely illiterate in 1950—such as Peru, Brazil, El Salvador, and the Dominican Republic—are largely literate today, closing much of the gap with Cuba. El Salvador had a less than 40 percent literacy rate in 1950, but has an 88 percent literacy rate today. Brazil and Peru had a less than 50 percent literacy rate in 1950, but today, Peru has a 94.5 percent literacy rate, and Brazil a 92.6 percent literacy rate. The Dominican Republic’s rate rose from a little over 40 percent to 91.8 percent. While Cuba made substantial progress in reducing illiteracy in Castro’s first years in power, its educational system has stagnated since, even as much of Latin America improved.

    Contrary to Sanders’ claim that Castro “gave” Cubans healthcare, they already had access to healthcare before he seized power. Doctors frequently provided free healthcare to those who couldn’t afford it. As the Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler noted:

    As for health care and education, Cuba was already near the top of the heap before the revolution. Cuba’s low infant mortality rate is often lauded, but it already led the region on this key measure in 1953–1958, according to data collected by Carmelo Mesa-Lago, a Cuba specialist and professor emeritus at the University of Pittsburgh.

    Cuba led virtually all countries in Latin America in life expectancy in 1959, before Castro’s communists seized power. But by 2012, right after Castro stepped down as Communist Party leader, Chileans and Costa Ricans lived slightly longer than Cubans. Back in 1960, Chileans had a life span seven years shorter than Cubans, and Costa Ricans lived more than two years less than Cubans on average. In 1960, Mexicans lived seven years shorter than Cubans; by 2012, the gap had shrunk to just two years.
    “The destructive capacity of the individual, however vicious, is small; of the state, however well-intentioned, almost limitless. Expand the state and that destructive capacity necessarily expands, too, pari passu.”—Paul Johnson, Modern Times, 1983.

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    Florida Democrats are appalled by Sanders' praise of murderous despot Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Well many of those Latino refugees in Florida from Cuba just gave Sanders an arousing victory so as my mate ER says go figure. I lean to believing Sanders more on this as these Latinos would know first hand the truth. Not some nutty right wing site like Alex Bolt who states that Sandy Hook school massacre was faked using child actors. I finally know who that guy is and what Info Wars is about. Your belief in conspiracies is just as nutty. But I still love you
    Where do you get this from? A leftist site, Politico, says the opposite:

    Florida Dems in uproar after Sanders’ Cuba comments
    “Donald Trump wins Florida if Bernie is our nominee,” said one state legislator.
    By MARC CAPUTO, 24 Feb 2020

    Bernie Sanders says he’s the Democrat best-equipped to defeat Donald Trump in November.

    But Florida Democrats insist he‘s the worst-equipped after Sanders’ refusal Sunday night to thoroughly condemn the Cuban revolution. His comments on 60 Minutes sent shock waves through the nation’s biggest battleground state, where Democratic members of Congress, state legislators and party leaders warned that his nomination — and Sanders’ self-described “Democratic socialism” — will cost them the biggest battleground state of them all.

    “Donald Trump wins Florida if Bernie is our nominee,” said state Rep. Javier Fernandez, a Democratic candidate in a majority-Hispanic state Senate district.

    “If Bernie Sanders is atop the ticket, it’s going to make it tougher for all of us to win in Florida,” said Fernandez, who has endorsed Sanders’ rival Joe Biden. “No one really sees Sanders winning Florida and I don’t think his campaign does either.”

    As a state with an influential cross-section of Latinos whose families fled leftist Latin American regimes and violence, Sanders embrace of far-left leaders and his past refusals to wholeheartedly condemn Latin American strongmen and the Soviet Union have long been seen as fatal flaws.
    “The destructive capacity of the individual, however vicious, is small; of the state, however well-intentioned, almost limitless. Expand the state and that destructive capacity necessarily expands, too, pari passu.”—Paul Johnson, Modern Times, 1983.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Don't care. They are jealous that President Trump bypassed the Republican establishment to achieve things they couldn't.
    The list was those who opposed him during his campaign, so would be unaffected by what he later achieved (or allegedly achieved). My point was, that people on the same party attacking each other during primary season is nothing new, it is actually the norm. Though in Trump's case it seemed to run much deeper than that (Eg being denounced by former presidents).
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    The list was those who opposed him during his campaign, so would be unaffected by what he later achieved (or allegedly achieved). ...
    At least one of those 'achievements' is dubious: "The top five source countries of U.S. petroleum imports in 2018 were Canada, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Venezuela, and Iraq." Unless Capablanca-Fan doesn't consider Saudi Arabia to be an 'Islamofascist' country.

    As you can see from this more recent graph, the US is not self-sufficient in energy yet, and Trump has simply benefited from the hard work done by Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    At least one of those 'achievements' is dubious: "The top five source countries of U.S. petroleum imports in 2018 were Canada, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Venezuela, and Iraq." Unless Capablanca-Fan doesn't consider Saudi Arabia to be an 'Islamofascist' country.

    As you can see from this more recent graph, the US is not self-sufficient in energy yet, and Trump has simply benefited from the hard work done by Obama.
    Yes quite a few on CF's list don't pass the sniff test, but as this particular gish gallop was irrelevant to my point, I just let it go.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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