View Poll Results: Who will win the Democratic primaries (2019–20)

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  • Joe Biden

    4 28.57%
  • Bernie Sanders

    5 35.71%
  • Elizabeth Warren - OUT

    2 14.29%
  • Kamala Harris - OUT

    0 0%
  • Pete Buttigieg - OUT

    3 21.43%
  • Robert Francis ‘Beto’ O'Rourke - OUT

    0 0%
  • Cory Booker - OUT

    0 0%
  • Amy Klobuchar - OUT

    0 0%
  • Andrew Yang - OUT

    0 0%
  • Juliαn Castro - OUT

    0 0%
  • Tom Steyer - OUT

    0 0%
  • Tulsi Gabbard - OUT

    0 0%
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  1. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    If Bloomberg chose Kamala Harris as his running partner, that is a black woman, it may solve his woman and racist problems perceptions. I can't remember her politics.
    It would be doubling down on criticisms of law and order excess though given the attacks on her record as a prosecutor. There would be other black women who would be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    And this might also not help him:

    Warren Slams Bloomberg for Blaming 2008 Financial Meltdown On End of Redlining Policy
    "We need to confront the shameful legacy of discrimination, not lie about it like Mike Bloomberg."

    But then, some agree with Bloomberg (who actually said the same as Thomas Sowell, although Sowell wrote a book on it), even in the leftist NY Times:

    Bloomberg Is Right About the 2008 Financial Crash
    It was brought about by a flawed attempt to use credit markets to broaden access to housing.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    It would be doubling down on criticisms of law and order excess though given the attacks on her record as a prosecutor. There would be other black women who would be better.
    Correct but there a video of Trump profusly praising stop and search or similar measures so it is even Stevens. But on your point there may be a safer bet. Imagine Winfrey or Michelle Obama but they are not political animals. Bloomberg may be trying for Hillary?? If Bernie became POTUS could he achieve his agenda? He may win Trump's deplorables over.
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    Bloomberg has qualified for the debate on Wednesday (Thursday AUS time) if he wants to be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Bloomberg has qualified for the debate on Wednesday (Thursday AUS time) if he wants to be there.
    He may spoken crude and rude to female employees but not in the same league of Trump. A bit of a shocker in his day.
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    Sanders getting great polls at the moment. Two over 30 and several in high 20s in the last day or two. Also he is winning matchup polling against all other Dems because the preference flow between moderate candidates is not enough to stop him.

    At the moment the optimum strategy for party insiders wanting to beat him would be keeping the best 2-3 moderates in the race to try to force Sanders to a contested convention. But a lot can change before then.

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    Bernie promises workers $15 per hour instead of half that. Without his supporters cemtralist candidates could lose the big one. Hiliary accuses him of that. But if you dont provide adequate wages what good are you.
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    My choice in this poll, Elizabeth Warren, took the fight to Bloomberg in Nevada debate. She accused him of calling women fat br..ds and horse-faced l.sb..ns. As well attacked him on non disclosure agreements he has with women he had abused. That was the lady in fight mode I have been waiting to see. She even had me feeling sorry for Bloomberg.

    But Bloomberg's ads are having a massive successful effect - maybe the first ever even for our famed psephologist to witness. I think Bb is even matching Sanders in some polls. That is before Warren chewed him up.
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Sanders getting great polls at the moment. Two over 30 and several in high 20s in the last day or two. Also he is winning matchup polling against all other Dems because the preference flow between moderate candidates is not enough to stop him.
    Despite being proud of his heritage and wanting to be the first ever Jewish President of the US, Bernie Sanders has to tread very carefully on his politics regarding USA - Israel alliance which has reached new heights under President Donald Trump.

    Some interesting points may be found here.

    https://prospect.org/politics/jewish...establishment/

    btw although I find some quite interesting topics in the American Prospect I think that despite them being self - branded as a liberal publication they often lean to the left!
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    For the record I really hope that USA have their first Jewish president in Bernie Sanders or first woman in Elizabeth Warren. They are both fantastic and honest people who care for the population and environment and Palestinians (don't know re Warren).

    MSNBC Ari Melber's show called The Beat of February 22 exposed how Bloomberg and Biden are fudging or lying about their records on Afro Americans.
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    Apparently Russia may be attempting to sabotage Bernie's campaign. Or it may be a 400lb dude on a bed or the Chinese according to Bone Spur Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ER View Post
    btw although I find some quite interesting topics in the American Prospect I think that despite them being self - branded as a liberal publication they often lean to the left!
    ‘Liberal’ in the USA means ‘leaning to the Left’: more power to government and less freedom to the people. The American Left has hijacked perfectly good words like ‘liberal’ and ‘progressive’ as self-serving self-descriptions.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    ‘Liberal’ in the USA means ‘leaning to the Left’: more power to government and less freedom to the people. The American Left has hijacked perfectly good words like ‘liberal’ and ‘progressive’ as self-serving self-descriptions.
    You mean the Liberal Party of Australia who believes I conscription of those who cannot vote. How can you be liberal or free if you are a slave or zombie to conspiracy theories and religious crackpot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    Analysis I've seen from 538 seemed to suggest that Buttigieg really needed to win Iowa/NH, as he'll struggle more in the more diverse electorates. They've got him at about a 4% chance of winning a majority.
    Although I'd be happy as I picked him to win in our poll quite a while back

    Interestingly Biden's chances apparently halved after Iowa (16%).

    They have Bernie as a clear front runner (44%).

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...mary-forecast/
    Post Nevada, Bernie has now moved to 46% chance of winning the majority of delegates, according to the 538 model. He's the only candidate on double figures, with Biden dropping to 9%.
    No candidate achieving a majority is the second most likely outcome now (41%).
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    My mare Elizabeth, who has breathed fire and brimstone, is performing better than your stallion Buttigieg but I doubt they will both be productive .
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