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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Hardly anyone complains at Centrelink.
    While rich people do nothing but complain - Ma included.
    Ma talks openly about his failures so do many others.
    RE complaints at Centerlink....go to Centerlink FB page, welfare discussion groups...unhappiness everywhere...particularly when benefits are about to be cut.
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    'Extreme wealth and poverty'' may be result of ''extreme'' smart and hard work and study on one side and extreme laziness and stupidity on the other side. Lazy people are more likely to feel that the world is unfair...so do the stupid ones.
    Hard and smart or parental support:
    YouTube star Boram snaps up five-storey building in Korea

    A Korean YouTube celebrity has made headlines after breaking into the property market — at the tender age of six.

    The girl, known only as Boram, has emerged as a bona fide YouTube star in recent years after amassing a whopping 30 million subscribers on the platform.

    She shot to fame after attracting followers through her popular toy reviews and playful clips. ...

    And she’s not alone — late last year, Forbes revealed the world’s richest YouTuber was none other than seven-year old Ryan Kaji.

    The American boy is estimated to have made $US22 million ($A30.5 million) last year alone, generated from his channel, Ryan ToysReview.

    His parents launched his channel in 2015 when their son was just three years old. ...
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Ma talks openly about his failures so do many others.
    And he complains all the time as well.
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    RE complaints at Centerlink....go to Centerlink FB page, welfare discussion groups...unhappiness everywhere...particularly when benefits are about to be cut.
    As I said, hardly anyone complains at Centrelink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    The desire for equality is part of our biology. So societies where there are extremes of wealth and poverty have much higher crime rates - just compare the US and Australia, for example.
    But then Baltimore has a very high crime rate despite half a century of Democratic rule, and socialist paradise Venezuela has horrid crime including the second-highest murder rate in the world.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    INEQUALITY AND VIOLENT CRIME

    FAJNZYLBER, LEDERMAN, & LOAYZA
    Journal of Law and Economics, vol. XLV (April 2002)

    Abstract
    We investigate the robustness and causality of the link between income inequality and violent crime across countries. First, we study the correlation between the Gini
    index and homicide and robbery rates within and between countries. Second, we examine the partial correlation by considering other crime determinants. Third, we
    control for the endogeneity of inequality by isolating its exogenous impact on these crime rates. Fourth, we control for measurement error in crime rates by modeling it
    as both unobserved country effects and random noise. Finally, we examine the robustness of this partial correlation to alternative measures of inequality. The panel
    data consist of nonoverlapping 5-year averages for 39 countries during 1965–95 for homicides and 37 countries during 1970–94 for robberies. Crime rates and inequality
    are positively correlated
    within countries and, particularly, between countries, and this correlation reflects causation from inequality to crime rates, even after controlling
    for other crime determinants.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    But then Baltimore has a very high crime rate despite half a century of Democratic rule, and socialist paradise Venezuela has horrid crime including the second-highest murder rate in the world.
    And both places have extremes of wealth and poverty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    And both places have extremes of wealth and poverty.
    Hard to imagine greater poverty than in the Socialist States
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Hard to imagine greater poverty than in the Socialist States
    Venezuela is surprisingly wealthy - on PPP, its GDP/capita is higher than India's, and not too far behind China's. Of course, if everyone's poor, there's no one to steal from

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Venezuela is surprisingly wealthy - on PPP, its GDP/capita is higher than India's, and not too far behind China's. Of course, if everyone's poor, there's no one to steal from
    But why can they not manage resources well? Because of Socialism. Rich in resources but poor in management.
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    After two years under a socialist PM, how is New Zealand faring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    After two years under a socialist PM, how is New Zealand faring?

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    somehow more people want to move from NZ to Australia than from Australia to NZ for work
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    somehow more people want to move from NZ to Australia than from Australia to NZ for work
    well don't forget she's scaring the crap out of people donning those hijabs!

    btw according to data based on the 2016 AUS census there are 517,740 New Zealanders living in Australia (roughly 10.7% of the total NZ population
    62,712 Australians live in NZ according to Kiwi statistical data based on the NZ 2013 census. (something like roughly 0.24%)
    Not sure how many of either receive unemployment or other benefits. I wouldn't bother looking for statistics.
    Of what I knew it's easier for Kiwis to get the dole or other benefits in Australia than the Aussies in NZ. Not sure if this situation Is still the same today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    And both places have extremes of wealth and poverty.
    Was there a point to this? Socialism preaches equality, but in reality, such equality can be enforced only by gross inequality of power. So it's no accident that those with power can amass great wealth while the masses go hungry and without some of the basics for life. California is another example of basically a one-party leftist state with extremely wealthy people as well as a huge homeless population, and even the homed population must suffer power blackouts and raging fires as per last weekend.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    somehow more people want to move from NZ to Australia than from Australia to NZ for work
    Are you sure?

    Surge in Australians researching NZ move after election results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Was there a point to this? Socialism preaches equality, but in reality, such equality can be enforced only by gross inequality of power. So it's no accident that those with power can amass great wealth while the masses go hungry and without some of the basics for life. California is another example of basically a one-party leftist state with extremely wealthy people as well as a huge homeless population, and even the homed population must suffer power blackouts and raging fires as per last weekend.
    I think you'll find the power blackouts and bushfires in California are more to do with climate change than socialism

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