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    Deep Dive into a Duplicate Database Game

    I have been doing some maintenance work on the Peter Stuart NZ Games Database, (<-that's a link, my ageing eyes can barely perceive the colour difference) which is now looked after by NZCF.

    I did a mechanical check for duplicate games, and came up with the following pair of games;

    Gollogly, David A - Adams, Jonathan M, 1977-1978 NZ Premier Reserve 1977.12.31 Round 5, 1-0 in 30 moves
    Gollogly, David A - Adams, David T, 1977-1978 NZ Premier Reserve 1978.01.02 Round 6, 1-0 in 30 moves

    The interesting thing is, the moves of these two games are identical (quite a nice attacking win by White actually - I will paste the moves below).

    Now that old NZ Chess Magazines are available to view online on the NZCF site I was able to check, and indeed Gollogly did beat each Adams in turn, in successive rounds (*** see mystery solved below ***)

    But almost certainly (99.99999%) this unlikely set of circumstances (including overlapping Davids) prompted a clerical mistake in the database and one of the games has been lost.

    I think one of the Adams players is a regular commenter here and I hope he will see this and shed some light. It would be too much to hope that the duplicate game is the David Adams game and Jonathan Adams can provide the actual score to his game! Maybe a 1% chance of that (*** once again, see mystery solved below ***).

    I think I remember David Adams as a friendly young chap who was a contemporary of mine in Wellington schoolboy chess in the 1970s. I think he went to Tawa college, started a career in the Air Force, but died tragically young (of illness not accident). My confidence in my accuracy reduces as the previous sentence progresses. Perhaps someone here has some better recollection.

    **** Mystery Solved ****

    In the act of writing this up I realised I should look carefully at everything the Feb 1978 magazine had to say (not just the crosstable) and in fact the round 6 game David Adams v Gollogly (not Gollogly-Adams) is recorded, a win in 19 moves for Gollogly. I transcribed the game with a view to fixing the database and then checked the final position against the database (just on a whim) and found the game was already present! So the database had a D Adams-Gollogly game and a (wrong) Gollogly-D. Adams game on the same day with the same round number. The fix will be to simply delete the fallacious Gollogly - D Adams game.

    I am going to go ahead and post this anyway, perhaps someone will find the whole story has some entertainment value.

    Gollogly - J Adams 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 6.Be2 Bg7 7.Be3 Nc6 8.O-O O-O 9.Nb3 Be6 10.f4 Na5 11.f5 Bc4 12.Bd3 Bxd3 13.cxd3 a6 14.g4 Nxb3 15.axb3 Rc8 16.g5 Nd7 17.Qg4 Bxc3 18.bxc3 Ne5 19.Qh4 f6 20.d4 Rxc3 21.fxg6 hxg6 22.dxe5 Rxe3 23.gxf6 Qb6 24.Kh1 Qc6 25.fxe7 Rf7 26.Rxf7 Kxf7 27.Rf1+ Ke6 28.Qf6+ Kd7 29.e8=Q+ Kxe8 30.Qf8+ 1-0

    D Adams - Gollogly 1.e4 c5 2.f4 e6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.Nf3 d5 5.exd5 exd5 6.d4 Nf6 7.Qe2+ Be7 8.Be3 O-O 9.O-O-O c4 10.h3 b5 11.Bd2 b4 12.Nb1 Ne4 13.Be1 Qa5 14.a3 c3 15.Qb5 bxa3 16.bxc3 a2 17.Qxa5 Nxa5 18.Kb2 axb1=Q+ 19.Kxb1 Nd6 0-1
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    Yes, Jonathan Adams is happily still with us, even on this site, but David Adams died way too young of cancer in ~1988. We were in Wellington schoolpupils competitions together, although he was about 4 or 5 years older. He and his father came to visit and he left me some of his books. His father was understandably distraught when he explained the situation to my parents; I had no idea because David looked normal. He had served in the NZ Navy while getting a uni education, and was also a Dan-level (amateur) Go player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Forster View Post
    I have been doing some maintenance work on the Peter Stuart NZ Games Database, (← that’s a link, my ageing eyes can barely perceive the colour difference) which is now looked after by NZCF.
    Yes, as people age, their lens becomes yellower, which cuts out more blue light. E.g. Designing For The Elderly: Ways Older People Use Digital Technology Differently:

    Color vision also declines with age, and we become worse at distinguishing between similar colors. In particular, shades of blue appear to be faded or desaturated.

    The company I work for has needed to take care of such things with both our website and magazine.
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    Does anyone know what became of David Gollogly? I extracted a top 50 list from 30 years ago and attempted to fill in players' statuses.
    Code:
    1	  3016AM	 Small, Vernon A           	  CA	2353	Wellington
    2	  3003SM	 Sutton, Richard J         	  CI	2343	deceased
    3	  3383AM	 Ker, Anthony F            	  CI	2321	active
    4	  3002AM	 Garbett, Paul A           	  NS	2295	active
    5	  3178AM	 Nokes, Roger I            	  NS	2293	Christchurcn
    6	  3459AM	 Dive, Russell J           	  CI	2289	active
    6  	  3001VM	 Sarapu, Ortvin            	  AC	2289    deceased 
    8	  3251AM	 Sarfati, Jonathan D       	  WE	2285	USA
    9	  3206AM	 Watson, Bruce R           	  NS	2272	active
    10	  3199UM	 Green, Peter R            	  AC	2257	
    11	  3007AM	 Green, Ewen M             	  HP	2256	active
    12	  3416UM	 Levene, Mark              	    	2246	London, UK
    13	  3231UM	 Aptekar, Lev              	  CI	2243	Australia
    14	  3390UM	 Lloyd, Adrian J           	    	2242	
    15	  3025AM	 Carpinter, Anthony L      	  NS	2239	active
    16	  3552JM	 Martin, Benjamin M S      	  OT	2224	Aberdeen, UK
    17	  3174UM	 Beach, David H            	  CI	2211	
    18	  3314UM	 McLaren, Leonard J        	  GA	2204	active
    19	  3088AM	 Smith, Robert W           	  WT	2201	active
    20	  3616UM	 Hampl, Michael            	  CI	2185	
    20   	  3176AM	 Love, Anthony J           	  OT	2185	Dunedin
    22	  3292UM	 Gollogly, David A         	  NS	2184	
    23	  3163AM	 Clemance, Philip A        	  CI	2176    deceased 
    24	  3696AM	 Lukey, Stephen G          	  CA	2174	active
    24   	  3009AM	 Wansink, Robert           	  OT	2174	Dunedin
    26	  3482AM	 Spain, Graeme A           	  GA	2171	active
    27	  3011UM	 Leonhardt, Wolfgang       	  NS	2153	Perth, AUS
    28	  3208UM	 Cordue, Patrick L         	  CI	2148	Wellington
    29	  3005AM	 Stuart, Peter W           	  NS	2137	deceased 
    30	  3296UM	 Anderson, Bruce R         	  CA	2131	
    31	  3336UM	 Bates, Giles T H          	  CA	2120	
    32	  3460AM	 Dreyer, Martin P          	  AC	2115	active
    32   	  3026UM	 Whaley, Michael G         	  NS	2115	
    34	  3052UM	 Weir, Peter B             	  NS	2109	
    35	  3573UM	 Cooper, Paul R            	  AC	2104	
    36	  3041UM	 Metge, J Nigel            	  AC	2100	active
    37	  3503UM	 Ker, Charles M            	  PE	2096	
    38	  3029UM	 Jackson, Jon R            	  NE	2094
    39	  3151AM	 Freeman, Michael R        	  NP	2090	active
    40	  3255AM	 Noble, Mark F             	  PE	2089	active
    41	  3201AM	 Steadman, Michael V R     	  CI	2082	active
    42	  3629AM	 Wilson, Mark C            	  CA	2081	
    43	  3148AM	 Dowden, R Anthony         	  OT	2073	active
    44	  3603UM	 Reyn, Isidor              	    	2061	
    44   	  3440UM	 Spencer-Smith, Gregory J         OT    2061	
    46	  3512UM	 Alexander, Ben J          	    	2051	
    47	  3010UM	 Hensman, Peter J          	    	2050	
    48	  3034UM	 Baker, Chris P            	  CA	2048	
    49	  3028SM	 Haase, Graham G           	  OT	2044	deceased
    50	  3613UM	 Fitzpatrick, Simon P      	  AC	2041
    16 players are still active in New Zealand chess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CivicChessMan View Post
    Does anyone know what became of David Gollogly?.
    I have just finished some more work on the Peter Stuart database (same link as before), this time extending his NZ Championships cross tables to 2018 and 2019. I notice that David Gollogly was actually NZ Champion in 1983, winning in the Dunedin congress of that year (shared with Paul Garbett who Gollogly beat in their individual encounter).

    In the NZ database, Gollogly only has 78 games, all between 1978 and 1984. He was getting good results and playing powerful chess (judging from a few random games I looked at - like the win v Garbett from the previous paragraph). So, it was rather a short "career" for a strong player.

    It's a rather google-able name and a bit of internet snooping suggests that 1978-1984 were basically his university years and that he has gone on to a rather high powered and successful medical career that continues to this day. Possibly Dr David Gollogly is one of those rare individuals who had sufficient strength of character to permanently escape our addictive game!
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    David Beach was another strong player from Civic Chess Club that I remember well but who has vanished into thin air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CivicChessMan View Post
    David Beach was another strong player from Civic Chess Club that I remember well but who has vanished into thin air.
    I remember there were fabulous interschool matches back in the day (mid 70s), held in the cavernous (probably if I went back it wouldn't be as impressive as my memory) basement of the old YWCA building at the top of Willis Street by the Civic Chess club. Run by a guy named Ted Stallknecht (??? or something like that ??? - maybe started with a G not an S. Don't know).

    Onslow College had David Beach #1, Stuart Cordue #2, Patrick Cordue #3. All on your list earlier (Edited later: Actually Stuart Cordue isn't on the list - surprises me as he was the stronger older brother - but he might have given up earlier). Wainuiomata College had an obscure player named Murray Chandler on #1. I think I can recall their entire lineup the day we (Newlands College - minnows) took them on. Fomotor #2, Rolfe #3, Collins #4. Can't quite recall the forenames - even Mr Collins who I used to see around town for decades. I want to say Phil but I bet that's not right :- ) (Edited later: Peter Collins). It was a toss up between Wainui and Onslow, Wainui with their extreme strength on #1 backed up by very decent #2,#3 and #4 vs Onslow with better than decent #1 thru #3. The funny thing was, and I am 99% sure this isn't some kind of false memory, Newlands were blitzed on #2, #3 and #4 - but we actually drew on board #1. I lost to Rolfe. I think I played a Pirc or similar and he just steamrollered me with an early f4-f5 type typical Kingside attack. Meanwhile on board 1, Ross Powell (anyone remember him?) reached a symmetrical N+Ps v N+Ps ending v Chandler and safely drew.

    Ross had an unhappy life and died a few years ago. Maybe this was one of the highlights of his life.

    Stuart Cordue showed up at the Wellington Chess Club about 15 years ago with his son who he was trying to interest in the game. Then faded away again.

    I saw Patrick Cordue in a Doctor's waiting room in Kelburn just a couple of years ago. Disturbingly, his physical appearance hadn't much changed since I last saw him as a seventh former 40 odd years ago (I call this "the Anthony Ker syndrome"). Not only was he a much better chess player than me, he shaded me in maths and physics too - we both got a Junior Scholarship but he got better marks. Very annoying that the bastard is now blitzing me in the hairline and waistline stakes as well :-).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ER View Post
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    My memory of this game is simply that I was slaughtered! I gave up the Dragon soon after - too many losses! (Another Dragon I lost was against my current Rooty Hill clubmate, Gavin Marner, then also in Wellington.) I have that scoresheet somewhere - I will try to find it!

    The whole Gollogly-Adams story was interesting.
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    Here are the moves.
    I got some minor details wrong. I won this game (!), was White, and it wasn't a Dragon, it was a Morra Gambit as you can see. It was a fun game - Gavin was pretty young then. I played a lot of gambits in my younger days.

    Anzac Weekender, Welington, NZ, 26/4/1984.
    White: Adams, Jonathan
    Black: Marner, Gavin.
    Result: 1-0.
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    These days Gavin is in the top group of players at Rooty Hill and I of course am playing less as I am arbiting most of the time, and I am significantly lower rated than him. We have had the odd spot of reminiscing about our Welington chess days. Gavin also makes me often think of another strong Wellington player (and like me he played lots of gambits) - Peter Hawkes. This is because both Gavin and Peter are (or maybe just were in Peter's case) industrial chemists who work for companies making making laundry powder/ soap products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CivicChessMan View Post
    Does anyone know what became of David Gollogly? I extracted a top 50 list from 30 years ago and attempted to fill in players' statuses.
    Code:
    1	  3016AM	 Small, Vernon A           	  CA	2353	Wellington
    2	  3003SM	 Sutton, Richard J         	  CI	2343	deceased
    3	  3383AM	 Ker, Anthony F            	  CI	2321	active
    4	  3002AM	 Garbett, Paul A           	  NS	2295	active
    5	  3178AM	 Nokes, Roger I            	  NS	2293	Christchurcn
    6	  3459AM	 Dive, Russell J           	  CI	2289	active
    6  	  3001VM	 Sarapu, Ortvin            	  AC	2289    deceased 
    8	  3251AM	 Sarfati, Jonathan D       	  WE	2285	USA
    9	  3206AM	 Watson, Bruce R           	  NS	2272	active
    10	  3199UM	 Green, Peter R            	  AC	2257	
    11	  3007AM	 Green, Ewen M             	  HP	2256	active
    12	  3416UM	 Levene, Mark              	    	2246	London, UK
    13	  3231UM	 Aptekar, Lev              	  CI	2243	Australia
    14	  3390UM	 Lloyd, Adrian J           	    	2242	
    15	  3025AM	 Carpinter, Anthony L      	  NS	2239	active
    16	  3552JM	 Martin, Benjamin M S      	  OT	2224	Aberdeen, UK
    17	  3174UM	 Beach, David H            	  CI	2211	
    18	  3314UM	 McLaren, Leonard J        	  GA	2204	active
    19	  3088AM	 Smith, Robert W           	  WT	2201	active
    20	  3616UM	 Hampl, Michael            	  CI	2185	
    20   	  3176AM	 Love, Anthony J           	  OT	2185	Dunedin
    22	  3292UM	 Gollogly, David A         	  NS	2184	
    23	  3163AM	 Clemance, Philip A        	  CI	2176    deceased 
    24	  3696AM	 Lukey, Stephen G          	  CA	2174	active
    24   	  3009AM	 Wansink, Robert           	  OT	2174	Dunedin
    26	  3482AM	 Spain, Graeme A           	  GA	2171	active
    27	  3011UM	 Leonhardt, Wolfgang       	  NS	2153	Perth, AUS
    28	  3208UM	 Cordue, Patrick L         	  CI	2148	Wellington
    29	  3005AM	 Stuart, Peter W           	  NS	2137	deceased 
    30	  3296UM	 Anderson, Bruce R         	  CA	2131	
    31	  3336UM	 Bates, Giles T H          	  CA	2120	
    32	  3460AM	 Dreyer, Martin P          	  AC	2115	active
    32   	  3026UM	 Whaley, Michael G         	  NS	2115	
    34	  3052UM	 Weir, Peter B             	  NS	2109	
    35	  3573UM	 Cooper, Paul R            	  AC	2104	
    36	  3041UM	 Metge, J Nigel            	  AC	2100	active
    37	  3503UM	 Ker, Charles M            	  PE	2096	
    38	  3029UM	 Jackson, Jon R            	  NE	2094
    39	  3151AM	 Freeman, Michael R        	  NP	2090	active
    40	  3255AM	 Noble, Mark F             	  PE	2089	active
    41	  3201AM	 Steadman, Michael V R     	  CI	2082	active
    42	  3629AM	 Wilson, Mark C            	  CA	2081	
    43	  3148AM	 Dowden, R Anthony         	  OT	2073	active
    44	  3603UM	 Reyn, Isidor              	    	2061	
    44   	  3440UM	 Spencer-Smith, Gregory J         OT    2061	
    46	  3512UM	 Alexander, Ben J          	    	2051	
    47	  3010UM	 Hensman, Peter J          	    	2050	
    48	  3034UM	 Baker, Chris P            	  CA	2048	
    49	  3028SM	 Haase, Graham G           	  OT	2044	deceased
    50	  3613UM	 Fitzpatrick, Simon P      	  AC	2041
    16 players are still active in New Zealand chess.
    Also interesting. Lev Aptekar (now elderly) lives in Dee Why in the northern beaches of NSW where I used to live. I recall him as an excellent trainer - no surprise perhaps, given that he was Russian. I still own a good little book by him - The Labyrinth of Chess Attack (1980).
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    I remember Ross Powell. My records show his last rated games were in 1993 when he played for Wellington in the Interclub B grade. Partrick Cordue had a 2148 rating but from what year is unknown to me, at least earlier than 1985. Stuart Cordue showed up at the Upper Hutt Rapid in 2002 and scored a creditable 4/6 in the A grade. That was that.
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    And i remember CCM and have several scoresheets of games we played! All 3 results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamski View Post
    And i remember CCM and have several scoresheets of games we played! All 3 results.
    I wasted ten minutes of my life (that I'm never getting back) trying to figure out who the hell CCM is. It's Civic Chess Man (Rowan Wood). I don't know why you guys insist on these dopey usernames when everybody know who you are anyway

    I don't have many scoresheets from that era and my memories are that Rowan pretty much had my number. I think in a typical game I'd succumb to Rowan's superior skill in rook endings. However I'm not sure Rowan gets much good training in Oslo, whereas the Wellington Chess Club is superb (my personal theory - it's the best chess club in Australasia - name another club where four 2300 FIDE players front up every week). So these days I'd fancy my chances

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