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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Maybe China has a bad reputation because it does things like this:
    The form of detention Yang is under is known as “residential surveillance at a designated location”, or RSDL. “RSDL is so concerning precisely because it institutionalises enforced disappearances and raises the risk of torture, both gross human rights violations and crimes under international law,” said Michael Castor, a human rights advocate focusing on RSDL. “This likely means Yang Hengjun may face up to six months of secret detention, denied any access to a lawyer, no contact with his family, and at high risk of abuse, and quite likely a forced confession at the end.”
    This is an Australian citizen we're talking about, being held in China against his will. No wonder Chinese people living in Australian don't criticise the government!
    Some Chinese people living in Australia do criticize - just an obvious minority! The article does not mention what the problem is other that he is a ''risk to national security'' - Do we know the full story?
    The Chinese legal system is certainly very imperfect. But shall we draw conclusions based on such cases that we are not even fully familiar with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    ... The Chinese legal system is certainly very imperfect. But shall we draw conclusions based on such cases that we are not even fully familiar with?
    But you regularly draw conclusions about black people based solely on media reports which you're obviously not fully familiar with. Why are you giving China special treatment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    But shall we draw conclusions based on such cases that we are not even fully familiar with?
    Classic!
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    But you regularly draw conclusions about black people based solely on media reports which you're obviously not fully familiar with. Why are you giving China special treatment?
    Reason 1 (As i stated years ago in my ''Get your Message Right'' article) Chinese people should be deciding the future of China - not us!
    Reason 2 ''Black people'' are in Australia and I see more than Media reports
    Reason 3 I have friends in China who are very open about initiatives such as ''social credit system''.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Reason 1 (As i stated years ago in my ''Get your Message Right'' article) Chinese people should be deciding the future of China - not us!
    But the "Chinese people" aren't deciding the future of China - it's Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party. And what I posted is not an internal Chinese matter - it's the imprisonment of an Australian citizen. Are you saying that China has the right to imprison (and possibly torture) Australia citizens whenever they want to?
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    Reason 2 ''Black people'' are in Australia and I see more than Media reports
    Really
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    And some people never make it to Australia:
    Pity they are in Germany...we missed out on more great contributors to our country and society:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...m=rta-fallback
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Reason 3 I have friends in China who are very open about initiatives such as ''social credit system''.
    Which we're not discussing.

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    The only word for this is Orwellian:
    China has the most sophisticated internal surveillance system in the world. Its Sky Net programme will have more than 600m cameras installed across the country by 2020, to help authorities identify anyone within three seconds. Beijing is also rolling out a “social credit system” under which surveillance is used to give citizens points for “good behaviour” and remove points for activities deemed unacceptable. High credit scores will be necessary to travel or to send your children to the best schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    The only word for this is Orwellian:
    China has the most sophisticated internal surveillance system in the world. Its Sky Net programme will have more than 600m cameras installed across the country by 2020, to help authorities identify anyone within three seconds. Beijing is also rolling out a “social credit system” under which surveillance is used to give citizens points for “good behaviour” and remove points for activities deemed unacceptable. High credit scores will be necessary to travel or to send your children to the best schools.
    We should note that this system is also effective in fighting crime and encourage responsible behaviour. Looking beyond political attitudes - we can see the benefits!
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    And This is the Japanese Version of ''Government Controls" - https://www.facebook.com/WEFvideo/vi...2Mzg4OTIxOTIx/
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    "LoopLearn claims that technology promises to save teachers up to 2.5 hours a week by replacing the need for them to mark the roll at the start of every class."

    Wow 30 mins per days to mark the roll. Doesn't pass the sniff test.

    Facial recognition has some useful applications. This isn't one.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    "LoopLearn claims that technology promises to save teachers up to 2.5 hours a week by replacing the need for them to mark the roll at the start of every class."

    Wow 30 mins per days to mark the roll. Doesn't pass the sniff test.

    Facial recognition has some useful applications. This isn't one.
    My point is not about how effective/ineffective the technology is (less effective than Chinese indeed ). - Just like with the Japanese one - it is about exercising the ''control and monitoring'' options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    And This is the Japanese Version of ''Government Controls" - https://www.facebook.com/WEFvideo/vi...2Mzg4OTIxOTIx/
    Huh? That video was about the Japanese government improving computer security, by letting people know of dodgy passwords. Nothing to do with the Chinese scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    My point is not about how effective/ineffective the technology is (less effective than Chinese indeed ). - Just like with the Japanese one - it is about exercising the ''control and monitoring'' options.
    But schoolchildren are already 'controlled and monitored' during the day. China is monitoring adults - and not just for criminal activity.

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    This is very disturbing:
    A report published in 2016 found a large discrepancy between official transplant figures from the Chinese government and the number of transplants reported by hospitals. While the government says 10,000 transplants occur each year, hospital data shows between 60,000 to 100,000 organs are transplanted each year. The report provides evidence that this gap is being made up by executed prisoners of conscience. In 2017 the European parliament passed a declaration condemning organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience, and called on Chinese officials to end it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    But schoolchildren are already 'controlled and monitored' during the day. China is monitoring adults - and not just for criminal activity.
    And Japan monitors....?
    And USA does not monitor?
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