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    China’s Hong Kong Problem
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    ...Above all, it became increasingly apparent that China’s leaders would not allow Lam and her ineffective and often invisible government to seek any compromise with public opinion. Many demonstrators seemed to conclude that the only thing to do was to put on helmets and gas masks and brave the tear gas and water cannon. This is not to condone the violent protests, but it perhaps explains them. Similarly, the occasional brutality of Hong Kong’s police may indicate a force forgetting its responsibilities under terrible pressure and hitting back too hard. The police cannot be expected to be an indefinite substitute for politics. Pepper spray is not an acceptable alternative to talking, listening, and negotiating.

    By now, the CPC must understand that although most people in Hong Kong are not seeking independence from the mainland, they hate the sort of brutal communism that led many of them to flee to the city as refugees. Nor can they abide a dictatorship threatening the freedom and high degree of autonomy that distinguish their citizenship from that of mainland Chinese.

    It must be galling for the regime in Beijing to realize that as the CPC prepares to celebrate the 70th anniversary of its takeover, so many Chinese citizens in Hong Kong deplore what it stands for. Unlike on the mainland, people in Hong Kong can say what they think and see what is happening around the world. They know, for example, that Tiananmen Square, where the big communist parades will take place on October 1, was once the scene of the murder of young demonstrators who wanted democracy and freedom.The Chinese government’s reaction to the events in Hong Kong is therefore pathetic and counterproductive. In an insult to the demonstrators – not least the young – China’s leaders blame outside forces for whipping up anti-communist sentiment. It’s all a CIA plot, they say, or maybe a conspiracy planned by other foreigners. Alternatively, the Chinese authorities point the finger at some of Hong Kong’s most distinguished public servants, who have urged the city’s government to talk to the demonstrators and address their more reasonable concerns.

    The CPC, by contrast, is waiting out the demonstrations in the hope that the protesters lose heart and perhaps the will to resist, while also sending senior officials to instruct Lam not to give any ground. For China’s leaders, any move perceived as a concession would be the first step on a slippery slope. They therefore hope that tough policing (with occasional help from Chinese security forces and allegedly “patriotic” mobsters) and public-order trials will eventually calm things down.

    But if China’s leaders were as sophisticated as they claim, and if their system of governance were really capable of being a dominant force in the twenty-first century, they would behave very differently. Instead of undermining international trust with their behavior toward Hong Kong, they would affirm their intention to uphold China’s commitments under the Joint Declaration treaty and guarantee Hong Kong’s freedoms and high degree of local autonomy until 2047....

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    Blizzard's former 'World of Warcraft' lead is boycotting the firm for punishing a ‘Hearthstone’ competitor who supported the Hong Kong protests
    Business Insider, Oct 10, 2019

    Prominent former Blizzard employee Mark Kern is boycotting his old employer after it banned pro esports player Blitzchung, real name Chung Ng Wai, for voicing support for the Hong Kong protestors.

    Last week, Blizzard – whose parent company is part-owned by Chinese tech giant Tencent – banned Blitzchung for a year and revoked $10,ooo in prize money he had won playing the Blizzard-made game 'Hearthstone.' The Hong Kong-based esports pro, whose real name is Chung Ng Wai, had shouted "Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our age" in a live post-game interview. ...

    In the thread, Kern – who identifies as ethnically Chinese – strongly criticized the Chinese games industry. He claimed he had "seen firsthand the corruption of Chinese gaming companies," and that he had once been "removed from a company I founded (after Blizzard) for refusing to take a 2 million dollar kickback bribe to take an investment from China. Not everyone refused like I did."

    Kern's criticisms also focused on China more broadly, as well as homing in on Blizzard. He accused China of "dictating the world be authoritarian," calling on Blizzard to "grow the spine it used to have" and admitting "Blizzard is the LAST company I ever expected to give in to China's demands." ...

    As first reported by the Daily Beast, up to 30 employees from Blizzard's parent firm, Activision Blizzard, walked out in protest at the firm's actions. One longtime employee reportedly described Blizzard's actions as "pretty appalling." ...
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    Blizzard's former 'World of Warcraft' lead is boycotting the firm for punishing a ‘Hearthstone’ competitor who supported the Hong Kong protests
    Business Insider, Oct 10, 2019

    Prominent former Blizzard employee Mark Kern is boycotting his old employer after it banned pro esports player Blitzchung, real name Chung Ng Wai, for voicing support for the Hong Kong protestors.

    Last week, Blizzard – whose parent company is part-owned by Chinese tech giant Tencent – banned Blitzchung for a year and revoked $10,ooo in prize money he had won playing the Blizzard-made game 'Hearthstone.' The Hong Kong-based esports pro, whose real name is Chung Ng Wai, had shouted "Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our age" in a live post-game interview. ...

    In the thread, Kern – who identifies as ethnically Chinese – strongly criticized the Chinese games industry. He claimed he had "seen firsthand the corruption of Chinese gaming companies," and that he had once been "removed from a company I founded (after Blizzard) for refusing to take a 2 million dollar kickback bribe to take an investment from China. Not everyone refused like I did."

    Kern's criticisms also focused on China more broadly, as well as homing in on Blizzard. He accused China of "dictating the world be authoritarian," calling on Blizzard to "grow the spine it used to have" and admitting "Blizzard is the LAST company I ever expected to give in to China's demands." ...

    As first reported by the Daily Beast, up to 30 employees from Blizzard's parent firm, Activision Blizzard, walked out in protest at the firm's actions. One longtime employee reportedly described Blizzard's actions as "pretty appalling." ...
    Nothing compared to calls some Australians are making to ''boycott'' China...like if we need China less than China needs us
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Nothing compared to calls some Australians are making to ''boycott'' China...like if we need China less than China needs us
    Who is calling for for a boycott?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    https://www.news.com.au/finance/busi...7YbMq_KdK6-feE

    Could also share it in the ''China thread'' ...as some of the Chesschatters love to refer to censorship in China...and this is (of course!) an entirely different case, right?
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    In China, no newspaper would dare complain publicly about government censorship. And even Bibles are restricted!
    YouTuber PewDiePie says he's been 'banned' in China after comparing the country's president to Winnie the Pooh
    Business Insider, OCT 22, 2019

    • PewDiePie, the most popular solo YouTuber in the world, recently said he has been “banned from China” after he posted a video featuring memes related to China and its president.
    • In the video, PewDiePie drew similarities between Chinese president Xi Jinping and Winnie the Pooh, a comparison made by many pro-democracy Hong Kong protesters.
    • It’s not completely clear what this ban consists of, since YouTube– and PewDiePie’s videos – are already blocked in China behind the country’s “Great Firewall.”
    • Although some have pointed out that searching PewDiePie on China’s search engine yields results, PewDiePie and others have said that content related to the YouTuber has been removed from social media and public forums.

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    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    What about China hacking the ANU's database? That is worse than anything the South Sudanese are doing.
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    YouTuber PewDiePie says he's been 'banned' in China after comparing the country's president to Winnie the Pooh
    Business Insider, OCT 22, 2019

    • PewDiePie, the most popular solo YouTuber in the world, recently said he has been “banned from China” after he posted a video featuring memes related to China and its president.
    • In the video, PewDiePie drew similarities between Chinese president Xi Jinping and Winnie the Pooh, a comparison made by many pro-democracy Hong Kong protesters.
    • It’s not completely clear what this ban consists of, since YouTube– and PewDiePie’s videos – are already blocked in China behind the country’s “Great Firewall.”
    • Although some have pointed out that searching PewDiePie on China’s search engine yields results, PewDiePie and others have said that content related to the YouTuber has been removed from social media and public forums.

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    ''Banned'' - what a drama. Now he is trying to use to build up followship outside China.
    We remember the story of Google and China and how Google was trying to play the human rights card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    What about China hacking the ANU's database? That is worse than anything the South Sudanese are doing.
    ''China'' hacked? Who is China? Is it the Chinese government? I can not recall any charges laid against Chinese Government for the ANU database hacking. Instead, I can recall some unjustified accusations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    ''Banned'' - what a drama. Now he is trying to use to build up followship outside China.
    Trying to build? At 101m (101,000,000) youtube subscribers, I think he's passed the point of needing to try to build something.

    We remember the story of Google and China and how Google was trying to play the human rights card.
    Do we remember the story of any western politican banning anyone for being compared to a cartoon character?
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    ''China'' hacked? Who is China? Is it the Chinese government? I can not recall any charges laid against Chinese Government for the ANU database hacking. Instead, I can recall some unjustified accusations.
    https://www.9news.com.au/national/an...c-adfa232ea430

    China-based hackers have utterly compromised the computer network of the university that is home to Australia’s National Security College and the School of Strategic and Defence Studies.
    The Australian National University was contacted by an intelligence agency months ago, demanding that it deal with a pervasive and persistent intrusion into its entire computer network.
    Multiple sources have told 9News that the Australian Cyber Security Centre followed the hackers’ trail to China and that agency described their domination of the ANU’s network as covering the domain controller, giving the adversaries the power of system administrators.

    The South Sudanese are saints in comparison.
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    Confrontation in Hong Kong is turning ever uglier
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    13.11.19

    ...The past few days had been grim indeed—a protester dying of an injury apparently suffered while running away from police, a man being shot at close range by an officer and someone being doused by protesters in flammable liquid and set on fire. This week police for the first time battled with students on campus.

    Some observers had thought the protest movement might begin to fizzle out amid widespread anxiety about its impact on the economy and in the absence of any sign that it might achieve a crucial goal—full-fledged democracy. But the death on November 8th of the fleeing student, Alex Chow, fanned the flames. On the following day, a Saturday, tens of thousands of protesters gathered across the city to mourn. On Monday protesters tried to enforce a “general strike” in response to Mr Chow’s death by blocking streets and railway lines and throwing petrol bombs at trains. The shooting that day of an unarmed protester who, police say, was trying to grab the officer’s gun increased the tension....

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    https://7news.com.au/politics/human-...-over-c-561429
    Made me laugh again...China must be so so scared, so so worried, so so concerned...What a pointless gesture. I am not even sure, Chinese authorities noticed it.
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    China's treatment of the Uighurs is horrifying:
    In one of the more chilling passages, officials are instructed on how to speak to family members of detained people who return from other parts of China. They are to be told their relatives are receiving “training” in order to educate them about the dangers of extremism, and while they have not broken the law, they are not allowed to leave. They are to be told that their families should “treasure this chance for free education that the party and government has provided to thoroughly eradicate erroneous thinking, and also learn Chinese and job skills.” They are also warned that there’s a point scoring system to determine when detainees can be released and that their families’ behavior can affect their score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    China's treatment of the Uighurs is horrifying:
    In one of the more chilling passages, officials are instructed on how to speak to family members of detained people who return from other parts of China. They are to be told their relatives are receiving “training” in order to educate them about the dangers of extremism, and while they have not broken the law, they are not allowed to leave. They are to be told that their families should “treasure this chance for free education that the party and government has provided to thoroughly eradicate erroneous thinking, and also learn Chinese and job skills.” They are also warned that there’s a point scoring system to determine when detainees can be released and that their families’ behavior can affect their score.
    To no-one's surprise, the CCP has rejected the report as fake news.

    Xinjiang regional govt slams NYT for faking news with so-called leaked files

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    To no-one's surprise, the CCP has rejected the report as fake news.

    Xinjiang regional govt slams NYT for faking news with so-called leaked files
    Btw, are you saying that Uigur extremist groups do not exist as such?
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