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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    So first it's - killing baby girls is no biggie, it's a cultural thing
    then it's - well anyone who does it is severly punished
    and now it's - well others are doing it so why can't China.

    Is that how you want to play it? Speak no evil?
    You are saying that China is not punishing child killers? In China punishment is much more severe than in Australia just like for other crimes.
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    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australi...arning-chinese
    And those who study Chinese will win!
    Chinese people love it when we can speak (even if not fluently) in their language! On the positive note, there are some Language Exchange clubs in Melbourne, and I met some young people there (lawyers, IT, Architects, uni students) who are learning Chinese - and some achieve truly impressive results. The Confucius Institute also helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    You are saying that China is not punishing child killers? In China punishment is much more severe than in Australia just like for other crimes.
    So do you condemn the generations of female infanticide in China?

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    'No point pretending there's nothing to see here': Peter Dutton warns on China

    Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton says there's "no point pretending there's nothing to see here" on China, as a split opens between senior ministers over Andrew Hastie's incendiary warning that Beijing poses a major threat to Australia.

    In a strong defence of his colleague on Friday, Mr Dutton said the former SAS captain and chair of Parliament's powerful intelligence and security committee is "privy to a lot of information and intelligence briefings that other members of Parliament aren't" and was entitled to speak out.

    Mr Hastie told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age on Thursday that Australia faced an unprecedented economic and national security test over the next decade, likening the world's approach to containing China to the "catastrophic failure" to prevent the rise of Nazi Germany. ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    So do you condemn the generations of female infanticide in China?
    I obviously do! I also condemn cannibalism worldwide etc. Question is: Have you got evidence of any Child-killers not being prosecuted strictly in contemporary China? If such cases take place, offenders get prosecuted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    'No point pretending there's nothing to see here': Peter Dutton warns on China

    Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton says there's "no point pretending there's nothing to see here" on China, as a split opens between senior ministers over Andrew Hastie's incendiary warning that Beijing poses a major threat to Australia.

    In a strong defence of his colleague on Friday, Mr Dutton said the former SAS captain and chair of Parliament's powerful intelligence and security committee is "privy to a lot of information and intelligence briefings that other members of Parliament aren't" and was entitled to speak out.

    Mr Hastie told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age on Thursday that Australia faced an unprecedented economic and national security test over the next decade, likening the world's approach to containing China to the "catastrophic failure" to prevent the rise of Nazi Germany. ...
    A ''threat'' wow...instead of making friends with China....we view it as a threat...this is indeed the problem!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    I obviously do! I also condemn cannibalism worldwide etc. Question is: Have you got evidence of any Child-killers not being prosecuted strictly in contemporary China? If such cases take place, offenders get prosecuted.
    Unless the killing is done by the government, of course. Then it's only the whistle-blowers who get prosecuted: "A year later, journalist Tan Zuoren was sentenced to five years in prison for drawing attention to government corruption and poor construction of school buildings that collapsed and killed thousands of children during the 2008 earthquake in Sichuan province."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Unless the killing is done by the government, of course. Then it's only the whistle-blowers who get prosecuted: "A year later, journalist Tan Zuoren was sentenced to five years in prison for drawing attention to government corruption and poor construction of school buildings that collapsed and killed thousands of children during the 2008 earthquake in Sichuan province."
    Government killing girls? who told you such nonsense?
    It is impossible to rule out that some parents kill babies - the question is do the get prosecuted or not and how they get prosecuted as opposed to Australia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Government killing girls? who told you such nonsense?
    It is impossible to rule out that some parents kill babies - the question is do the get prosecuted or not and how they get prosecuted as opposed to Australia?
    Forced Abortion Still Mandated Under China’s “Planned Birth” Laws

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    This is totally different.
    Hope you do do not consider abortion as killing of babies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    This is totally different.
    Hope you do do not consider abortion as killing of babies.
    Forced abortion and sterilisation are a bit different from pro-choice. And newborn infants exceeding birth quotas were killed by midwives, to comply with family planning laws.

    ...“I was the executioner,” a midwife, who had performed thousands of sterilizations and abortions, including on women who were tied-up and dragged to her, told the filmmakers. “I counted this out of guilt because I aborted and killed many babies. Many I induced alive and killed."...
    https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...fe-executioner

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Government killing girls? who told you such nonsense?
    You don't seem to have actually read my post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    You don't seem to have actually read my post
    I heard at the time that women had to prove first hand evidence of their menstruation cycle every month. It is unfair that Chinese women are forced to adhere to population control but not other over populated countries as well. China's population was deliberately dramatically I increased by Chairman Mao as a military tactic. Maybe because of China obtaining the atomic bomb they no longer need so much cannon fodder.
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    Transcript:

    On September 25th, 1980, the Chinese Government instituted its one-child policy, to be in place for 30 years. But it's still enforced today. [Sep 20, 2011 - rr]

    Since the day the policy began, horrible things have happened. When families can have only one child, they choose boys. Mothers who give birth to baby girls are condemned within their culture and are often rejected by their husbands or in-laws. Trying again for a boy is dangerous. Second-time Mothers face exorbitant fines or a forced abortion.

    This systematic elimination of girls is called GENDERCIDE, and it's happening in 4 ways: through pre-natal sex selection, infanticide, abandonment, and trafficking. And it's happening every day.

    Since the policy began, 37 million Chinese girls have been lost. That's more than the number of people killed in all the major genocides of the past century combined.

    Each of these girls will never celebrate her first birthday. Today it's time to remember them.

    Your moment of silence starts now.
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