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  1. #31
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    Conditions for Titled Players

    Most players regardless of rating will spend some time after their games to analyse with their opponent, but if you want them to give analyse to the fiield had a whole, a little more money maybe needed.

    The Australian Champs in Adelaide had this as an option with good players going over their games, and the players giving a gold coin 'donation' (I hate this word it makes the players look like they need charity.) All you need is a seperate room and a demo board.

    If you are going to ask the players for coaching as well, you will run into problems. It is already taxing, just playing very few (or none) will like to combine both. You may wish to consider having a non playing IM, for that role. (Having a titled player looks good, but not all titled players make good coaches.)

    What type of event and in what format are you planing for, with this in mind I can be more specific with any advice.
    Lee Forace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberaci
    Most players regardless of rating will spend some time after their games to analyse with their opponent, but if you want them to give analyse to the field had a whole, a little more money maybe needed.

    The Australian Champs in Adelaide had this as an option with good players going over their games, and the players giving a gold coin 'donation' (I hate this word it makes the players look like they need charity.) All you need is a seperate room and a demo board.
    Thanks Lee,

    I read into these comments of yours that the $500 + billet + <opportunity for a prize>, is a sort of base-rate; and after-game forum-analysis is an extra.

    If you are going to ask the players for coaching as well, you will run into problems.
    And this is another 'extra'.



    At which current traditional events in Australia would the base-rate have been operating in 2004?

    regards
    starter

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    Australian Events

    There are actually very few events where titled players can expect appearance fees. All weekender don't offer appearance fees (including Doeberl Cup), which ususally attracts 1-2 GMs and 6 IM's.
    The players recieve free entry only, and then the rest is up to them.

    Events in 2004-5 which titled players could expect an appearence fee would be: The Australian Open, The Zonal, The New Zealand Championship is pretty good with it's conditions, with Darryl J, Stephen S, and A.Wohl playing there is recent years. And the final event is the Australian masters, Melbourne.

    If your planning to run a weekender, you don't need appearance fees, you'll do well if you can run it on the Grand Prix, and make the event a 'category 3' event. Which requires at least $2,500 in prize money, and I think the fee to run an event is $500.00 which is paid to the ACF.

    Box Hill does have a better chance than most clubs to try and run an IM event, which has more than enough IM's to run an event. This what an IM event needs.


    Firstly you need 3 IM's. Not so hard, as Melbourne has: Guy West, David Smerdon, Lenoid Sandler, Mirko Rujevic, Michael Gluzman and GM Darryl Johansen which not fills and IM's role, but is of course higher rated.

    Secondly and this where it may get tricky is you need 4 Federations (countries) represented. This is big problem with trying to run such an event in Oz. Okay we have Australia- that's one. IM Peter Froehlich is still listed as 'German' so if you can him, your down to two. The third and fourth might Igor Bjelobrk who is a NZ'er and finally if FM Erik Teichmann is still in Australia, he is English and so you have four.

    Other problems you will encounter are money? You need most of these players, and without one of them the event flops. Not many of these players are actually putting money into the event.

    For starters, I don't think the IM's would charge so much for a club event. The opporunity to play other IM's/Darryl would be a good enough.

    This is how you do it.... ( I hope...)

    Firsty it should be an Olympiad year, so the players can then use the results in the quest to make the team. Invite some/all of the players trying to of course fill the requirements of a norm event. Ideally if the club could secure $1,000 in sponsorship then you say entry is free to all, and then prizes are 1st $500, 2nd $300 and 3rd $200. Your not paying appearnce fees, but you are offering a special opporunity for these players and your club. (You should give Darryl something though)

    I don't want you think this is easy to pull off, because it's not. Another good source of info is IA Gary Bekker (one of your fellow club members). He'll give you good advice as well as help with all the FIDE stuff, of which is great at.

    Most IM events cost between $3,000-$5,000 depending on cost such as venue, appearance fees, accomodation, DOP fees. But Box Hill could possibily do it for $1,500-$2,000.

    It's food for thought.... It would be great if you could pull it off....

    "It's a long way to the top, if you wanna rock 'n roll...."
    Lee Forace

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    It's better to set goals that one cannot acheive than to settle for mediocrity.

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