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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Michael that was 7 news. Surely your tastes are more elitist than that.
    I would think its based on the facts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    I would think its based on the facts!
    It may be fact but everyday small crim events only amuse small uneducated minds with nothing more serious and intellectual to ponder. Trump does exactly the same appealing to people's lower instincts. But his followers are famous for being uneducated - just like Our Nick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    It may be fact but everyday small crim events only amuse small uneducated minds with nothing more serious and intellectual to ponder. Trump does exactly the same appealing to people's lower instincts. But his followers are famous for being uneducated - just like Our Nick.
    I think we need to understand the origin of these small crimes...and understand that it is many small crimes combined that contribute to the society we are living in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    This case as well...While I may not know all details of the case, the sentence appears to be way too light....Now the questions is, what are those details that I do not know that result in such a light sentence? Or is it standard, punishment?
    https://www.police.vic.gov.au/sixtee...SqjOIqnnwYHQ4Q

    This time...group of 16!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Btw if 16 criminals are working as a ''team'' on a number of occasions....would we refer to them as gang/syndicate? Likewise, if their share a racial/ethnic background...can we refer to them as Afgani/Sudanese etc. gang/syndicate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Btw if 16 criminals are working as a ''team'' on a number of occasions....would we refer to them as gang/syndicate? Likewise, if their share a racial/ethnic background...can we refer to them as Afgani/Sudanese etc. gang/syndicate?
    Do they share a racial/ethnic background - there's nothing in the police report about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Do they share a racial/ethnic background - there's nothing in the police report about that?
    Note that there is ''IF'' in my question. The video on the police FB page showed some people with fairly dark complexion but was not a clear video.
    By the way, does it matter? Does it matter what race/background they are? The questions is: IF they all belong to the same background/race... can we assume it is an Ethnic Gang?
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    https://www.facebook.com/humanrights...action_generic

    I am stating clearly by the way - why I dislike racial profiling!~
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    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-...7x44nTKAmRL1QQ

    To quote the article: ''Indigenous people have long been the most vulnerable group of people targeted by arrests under public drunkenness laws,''
    The article does not go on to explain however whether it is because of
    a) they carry out more public drunkenness activities or b) they were discriminated against when applying the law
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-...7x44nTKAmRL1QQTo quote the article: ''Indigenous people have long been the most vulnerable group of people targeted by arrests under public drunkenness laws,''
    The article does not go on to explain however whether it is because of
    a) they carry out more public drunkenness activities or b) they were discriminated against when applying the law
    Or c) They are more affected by alcohol.

    Whatever the reason, decriminalising public drunkenness is clearly a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Or c) They are more affected by alcohol.

    Whatever the reason, decriminalising public drunkenness is clearly a good thing.
    orh....and I trust the fact that they are more effected is not their fault and we as society are fully responsible - there is no individual responsibility for consumption.
    Re decriminalising public drunkenness, it could indeed be a good thing as long as we rest assured that any disturbances caused by the drunk people are recorded and appropriate legal action is taking. E.g drunk people screaming obscenities at everyone asking them to ''get out of their country''.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    orh....and I trust the fact that they are more effected is not their fault and we as society are fully responsible - there is no individual responsibility for consumption.
    No one is saying that society is "fully responsible". But a person's biology is not their fault.
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Re decriminalising public drunkenness, it could indeed be a good thing as long as we rest assured that any disturbances caused by the drunk people are recorded and appropriate legal action is taking. E.g drunk people screaming obscenities at everyone asking them to ''get out of their country''.
    Which never happens, so I wouldn't worry about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    No one is saying that society is "fully responsible". But a person's biology is not their fault.
    Which never happens, so I wouldn't worry about it.
    Biology can be a factor in how body reacts to alcohol. But whether people drink or not...who should take responsibility? By the way, the same question can be asked about other crimes. All crimes irrespective of nationality, background etc. of the offenders?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Biology can be a factor in how body reacts to alcohol. But whether people drink or not...who should take responsibility? By the way, the same question can be asked about other crimes. All crimes irrespective of nationality, background etc. of the offenders?
    Drunkennesss is not a crime

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