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    here a woman murdered her husband with her prescription drugs of morphine etc. I doubt he died with a smile on his face because she was laughing all the way to the bank with his $300,000
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    For this one...I do not even know who is laughing:
    The Professor is NOT charged...the University is paying the money. This is plain ridiculous. If Professor is guilty - should go behind bars! If not guilty ...one should not be linking mental issues to something that is not proven and making the employer responsible!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
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    For this one...I do not even know who is laughing:
    The Professor is NOT charged...the University is paying the money. This is plain ridiculous. If Professor is guilty - should go behind bars! If not guilty ...one should not be linking mental issues to something that is not proven and making the employer responsible!
    Some things can be found to be true on the balance of probabilities (meaning that a civil suit will succeed) but not beyond reasonable doubt (meaning that a criminal trial will fail). I don't know if this is one of those but it is something that happens. The alternatives to such a situation are unappealling - either (i) the victim gets nothing when they were probably harassed and the employer probably failed in duty of care or (ii) the alleged perpetrator is found guilty and becomes a criminal when there is doubt whether they actually did it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Some things can be found to be true on the balance of probabilities (meaning that a civil suit will succeed) but not beyond reasonable doubt (meaning that a criminal trial will fail). I don't know if this is one of those but it is something that happens. The alternatives to such a situation are unappealling - either (i) the victim gets nothing when they were probably harassed and the employer probably failed in duty of care or (ii) the alleged perpetrator is found guilty and becomes a criminal when there is doubt whether they actually did it.
    As it was settled out of court, it was a civil and not a criminal case. Probably the only settlement I've ever seen without a confidentiality clause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Some things can be found to be true on the balance of probabilities (meaning that a civil suit will succeed) but not beyond reasonable doubt (meaning that a criminal trial will fail). I don't know if this is one of those but it is something that happens. The alternatives to such a situation are unappealling - either (i) the victim gets nothing when they were probably harassed and the employer probably failed in duty of care or (ii) the alleged perpetrator is found guilty and becomes a criminal when there is doubt whether they actually did it.
    I find it very sad that employers (and in this case its a University) have to bear responsibility for unproven allegations. Now the outcome is:a) lots of money paid to a person who is yet to be confirmed to be a victim b) University suffers reputational losses irrespective of what happened c) either a criminal is set free or someone's good name is ruined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    I find it very sad that employers (and in this case its a University) have to bear responsibility for unproven allegations. Now the outcome is:a) lots of money paid to a person who is yet to be confirmed to be a victim b) University suffers reputational losses irrespective of what happened c) either a criminal is set free or someone's good name is ruined.
    If UniMelb believed in its professor, it would not have paid out $700K as settlement and acceded to the claimant's demand that he be dumped from staff, with no confidentiality agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    If UniMelb believed in its professor, it would not have paid out $700K as settlement and acceded to the claimant's demand that he be dumped from staff, with no confidentiality agreement.
    Yes so that's a thing: believing/not believing becomes a factor.
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    Looks like our own production has reached its limits so now we export them overseas too! Cocaine Cassie's case a prime example!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ER View Post
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    Looks like our own production has reached its limits so now we export them overseas too! Cocaine Cassie's case a prime example!
    Speaking from what appears to be a hotel room, Sainsbury told 60minutes said she learned a lot while behind bars.

    'I've grown up a lot. I learned a lot about myself, I learned a lot about people, I've learned how to analyse people better.

    'I've learned not to trust people so much. ''

    Wow...now she will become a preacher I guess...
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    Very lucky to be out after just 3 years.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-...ByVHlygT_JPtW4

    Western Australia's corruption watchdog has questioned the WA Police Force's decision not to charge an officer with assault over his treatment of a 13-year-old child in state care.

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    Officers were told a child was "smashing up" a Child Protection office
    One officer repeatedly pushed the boy in the chest, then the boy struck him
    The CCC found the officer should have been charged with assault
    The Corruption and Crime Commission (CCC) on Monday released a report into the incident, which occurred in February 2018 after officers were called to a regional Department of Child Protection and Family Support (DCPFS) office following reports the child was "smashing up the reception area".

    Poor ''baby'' - Police was protecting public property and ensuring safety of the people...and this is what ensuring safety of the people comes to...
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    Runs in the family, 10 effing years for planning a terrorist attack in Melbourne CBD, ffs!!! I bet he' ll be out laughing and planning long before the ten years!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ER View Post
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    Runs in the family, 10 effing years for planning a terrorist attack in Melbourne CBD, ffs!!! I bet he' ll be out laughing and planning long before the ten years!
    Unbelievable indeed...and how did this lovely family get to live in a civilized society in the first place? Let me guess - they won some scholarships...
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    Some beautiful souls doing their level best to make Melbourne a beautiful place.
    15 yo....I wonder how many years in prison the poor little thing will get...still a baby, you know!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Unbelievable indeed...and how did this lovely family get to live in a civilized society in the first place? Let me guess - they won some scholarships...
    Michael, you have to look a lot longer and deeper to see how that family got like that and it is not a topic for this thread. Supposedly the perpetrator has recanted a while back and seen the error of his ways.
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