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    Austria election results: Far-right set to enter government as conservatives top poll
    Austria seems to have elected its youngest ever head of government
    Jon Stone, Samuel Osborne, Independent, 16 Oct 2017

    Austria's far-right is on course to take a place in the country's government after a strong showing in Sunday's parliamentary elections.

    The country's main conservative party, led by current foreign minister Sebastian Kurz, topped the poll with 31.4 per cent of the vote, but is expected to seek a coalition with the far-right Freedom Party (FPO), which is posting one of its strongest showings on record.

    Austrian politics appears to have shifted strongly to the right, with early projections showing the conservative OVP up nearly eight per cent and the far-right FPO up around five per cent.

    According to projections the Greens have failed to reach the 4 per cent threshold to enter the parliament, meaning they will get zero MPs – despite one of their members, Alexander Van der Bellen, being elected president in a vote last year.

    Both the OVP and FPO have called for tightening Austria's borders and quick deportations for rejected asylum seekers.

    At the start of this year the FPO leader Heinz-Christian Strache claimed Austria was being “Islamified” and called for a ban on what he referred to as “fascistic Islam” – including Muslim symbols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Austria election results: Far-right set to enter government as conservatives top poll
    Austria seems to have elected its youngest ever head of government Jon Stone, Samuel Osborne, Independent, 16 Oct 2017
    Austria's far-right is on course to take a place in the country's government after a strong showing in Sunday's parliamentary elections.
    Not sure what this has to do with the UK, but Austrians electing a far-right government is obviously a bad thing - remember what happened last time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Not sure what this has to do with the UK,
    I agree, but couldn't find anywhere to put it. Maybe we need a Continental European Politics thread?

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    but Austrians electing a far-right government is obviously a bad thing—remember what happened last time?
    No I don't. I do remember what happened when they elected the far-left National Socialists though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    I agree, but couldn't find anywhere to put it. Maybe we need a Continental European Politics thread? ... No I don't. I do remember what happened when they elected the far-left National Socialists though.
    There is a thread on Nazis, which would suit the Freedom Party, given its history:
    The Freedom Party of Austria (Freiheitliche Partei Österreichs--FPÖ) was founded in 1956 by Anton Reinthaller, who had served in the Seyss-Inquart national socialist government formed in collaboration with Hitler after the Anschluss in 1938.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    I do remember what happened when they elected the far-left National Socialists though.
    Ah! That explains why the Nazis supported the Republicans against Franco in the Spanish civil war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    Ah! That explains why the Nazis supported the Republicans against Franco in the Spanish civil war.
    Again, National Socialists and International Socialists were just in an ideological turf war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Again, National Socialists and International Socialists were just in an ideological turf war.
    I see. The Nazis sided with fascists in Italy and Spain because it fitted their ideological turf war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    I see. The Nazis sided with fascists in Italy and Spain because it fitted their ideological turf war.
    Exactly. Mussolini had a long history as an open socialist leader.
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    So Capablanca-Fan was a supporter of this government - why am I not surprised

    Austria’s government came crashing down with a bang not a whimper this past weekend following one of the worst political scandals in the country’s recent history. It all started Friday evening when a 2-year-old video surfaced in the German media showing Austria’s vice chancellor and the leader of the far-right Freedom Party, Heinz-Christian Strache, offering government contracts and a stake in Austria’s most important tabloid, the Krone Zeitung, to a woman he believed to be the niece of a Russian oligarch.

    The woman turned out to be a decoy, and the offer that Strache made during a night of heavy drinking in Ibiza, the far-right politician’s favorite Mediterranean holiday resort, a few weeks ahead of the Austrian parliamentary elections in October 2017, was secretly filmed. While it is still unclear who was behind the video, its publication was tantamount to the unleashing of a political tsunami in Austria.

    Drunken far-right politicians secretly filmed making deals with foreigners? That sounds strangely familiar ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Not sure what this has to do with the UK, but Austrians electing a far-right government is obviously a bad thing - remember what happened last time?
    It is very bad indeed...but what is it that triggered that if not the disgust with the left-wing alternatives that they want to avoid.
    They had enough of refugees, enough of Greens and enough of 'social justice'' polices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    It is very bad indeed...but what is it that triggered that if not the disgust with the left-wing alternatives that they want to avoid.
    They had enough of refugees, enough of Greens and enough of 'social justice'' polices.
    Old news - that government has collapsed due to a massive scandal (see my post above). Far right parties seem to be very scandal-prone, so they're never a good choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Old news - that government has collapsed due to a massive scandal (see my post above). Far right parties seem to be very scandal-prone, so they're never a good choice.
    I agree. And neither are the Left Wing ones...Btw, Hitler had a lot in common with socialists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    So Capablanca-Fan was a supporter of this government - why am I not surprised .
    What am I supposed to have supported just by reporting an election? And what policies am I supposed to have supported? This ‘far right’ party strongly supports Israel, including its right to defend itself and recognizes Jerusalem as its capital. The term ‘far right’ is more often used as a term of abuse than as a thoughtful analysis of policies. Yes, the party does support genuinely right wing policies such as lower tax rates, smaller government, and privatization, so the opposite of the National Socialists. The Leftmedia hardly ever use the term ‘far left’, although that would describe most of the USA Democratic presidential candidates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    I agree. And neither are the Left Wing ones...Btw, Hitler had a lot in common with socialists.
    Left wing parties are not especially scandal prone. And Hitler also had a lot in common with the Coalition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    What am I supposed to have supported just by reporting an election? And what policies am I supposed to have supported? This ‘far right’ party strongly supports Israel, including its right to defend itself and recognizes Jerusalem as its capital. The term ‘far right’ is more often used as a term of abuse than as a thoughtful analysis of policies. Yes, the party does support genuinely right wing policies such as lower tax rates, smaller government, and privatization, so the opposite of the National Socialists. The Leftmedia hardly ever use the term ‘far left’, although that would describe most of the USA Democratic presidential candidates.
    If you post something without comment, it is reasonable to assume you support what you are reporting. The FPO supports a ban on 'Muslim symbols', as reported in your original post. That makes it far right. Do you support restricting religious freedom?

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