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    How shonky providers are draining the accounts of people with disabilities

    ... White has paid one company almost $5000 from his National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) funding to help him organise modifications to make his home more accessible. But nothing has been done.

    When he complained, the company dropped him as a client — before draining nine weeks’ worth of funding from his NDIS account despite not providing any new services. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    How shonky providers are draining the accounts of people with disabilities

    ... White has paid one company almost $5000 from his National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) funding to help him organise modifications to make his home more accessible. But nothing has been done.

    When he complained, the company dropped him as a client — before draining nine weeks’ worth of funding from his NDIS account despite not providing any new services. ...
    That's why I despise any private company involvement in public services. That is what the government is for.
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    Australia is a rich country.

    The Australian government should be spending enough on welfare that no one is lacking on welfare payments. This probably means there should be a significant increase in all welfare payments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Colliver View Post
    Australia is a rich country.

    The Australian government should be spending enough on welfare that no one is lacking on welfare payments. This probably means there should be a significant increase in all welfare payments.
    But the Government cuts taxes instead so how can they pay for many necessities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    But the Government cuts taxes instead so how can they pay for many necessities?
    Tax the rich more and get rid of the military

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Colliver View Post
    Australia is a rich country.

    The Australian government should be spending enough on welfare that no one is lacking on welfare payments. This probably means there should be a significant increase in all welfare payments.
    If someone is receiving Job Search allowance , should the payments (in your view) be conditional to them searching for jobs or since we are a ''rich country'' no? Btw, how do you define a rich country? Right now, our economic situation does not appear all that good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Colliver View Post
    Tax the rich more and get rid of the military
    Tax the rich based on?
    If people work hard and smart - should they be taxed even more? is that fair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    If someone is receiving Job Search allowance , should the payments (in your view) be conditional to them searching for jobs or since we are a ''rich country'' no? Btw, how do you define a rich country? Right now, our economic situation does not appear all that good.
    Yes, they should be required to look for work.

    Look around Michael, we clearly are better off than most countries in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Tax the rich based on?
    If people work hard and smart - should they be taxed even more? is that fair?
    No one needs millions of dollar, that kind of money in the hands of one person is just obscene when many are going without.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Colliver View Post
    Yes, they should be required to look for work.

    Look around Michael, we clearly are better off than most countries in the world.
    The situation is declining (as pointed out by Costello). Btw, I am not against welfare payments, but I believe that people should be desperate to get employed and support themselves financially if unemployed and no sources of income. Short-term support may be essential. But in in the long term- healthy people should be able to secure work if they need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Colliver View Post
    No one needs millions of dollar, that kind of money in the hands of one person is just obscene when many are going without.
    I think if I make million of dollars, I should be able to decide whether I need it or not as long as I earn it fairly. Where is the justice? Some study hard others do not. Some save and invest, others drink and party. Some are developing themselves, others do not. Why should State play ''God'' and decide how the resources should be redistributed? As it is, taxes are too high .
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    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/...box=1605991408
    Relevant to the topic of Welfare spending as the articles describes the concept of ''entitlement'' rather well. Quite common for people to love talking about rights and entitlements while not giving their all at work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/...box=1605991408
    Relevant to the topic of Welfare spending as the articles describes the concept of ''entitlement'' rather well. Quite common for people to love talking about rights and entitlements while not giving their all at work.
    Not common at all. From your cited article:

    Mr Smyth acknowledged on the podcast that the vast majority of his company's young employees were "hard-working beasts" and only a small number were "self-entitled little f---s".

    If you're looking for entitlement, look at company CEOs who are paid every ten minutes or so what their base-rate employees are paid in a year. What incentive is there to work hard and smart for a company with that sort of rusted-on inequality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    Not common at all. From your cited article:

    Mr Smyth acknowledged on the podcast that the vast majority of his company's young employees were "hard-working beasts" and only a small number were "self-entitled little f---s".

    If you're looking for entitlement, look at company CEOs who are paid every ten minutes or so what their base-rate employees are paid in a year. What incentive is there to work hard and smart for a company with that sort of rusted-on inequality?
    Nobody forces the companies to pay that much to CEO's. They are welcome to find someone cheaper. So underpaying is a problem....but why is it a problem when people get paid well? What if this is what they are worth? Once again, we are counting money in other people's pockets - the money that they earn!
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