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    Google image for today is the Great Barrier reef (for Australia Day)
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    Australian Google. The American page has a tribute to aviatrix Bessie Coleman who had African and Cherokee heritage.
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    http://kevinbonham.blogspot.com.au/2...y-abbotts.html
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    High Court rules Culleton never validly elected as a Senator in the first place. Special count will be ordered supervised by single judge and Peter Georgiou will become a Senator.

    Day case is still ongoing, major hearings Monday-Tuesday.

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    Nice to know america is wishing us and Mr Trunbull from Austria all the best with our dumb ideas.
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    Senator Cory Bernardi has left the Liberal Party, only a few months after being elected on a Liberal Party ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Senator Cory Bernardi has left the Liberal Party, only a few months after being elected on a Liberal Party ticket.
    Which was always on the cards even before the election, and the Liberal preselectors responsible for picking him anyway should be purged.

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    "You can't just jump ship and join the other team and claim it's the national or public interest because it's not."
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    I don't like Cory Bernardi's chances of getting a new Conservative party off the ground. By some definitions, we already have 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamski View Post
    ....... a new Conservative party.....
    rofl..... aren't conservatives opposed to change ! So you can't have new conservatives. You better change that to "another Conservative party".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitlin View Post
    rofl..... aren't conservatives opposed to change ! So you can't have new conservatives. You better change that to "another Conservative party".
    No, conservatives tend to want incremental rather than sudden changes. It's something of a misleading label anyway without knowing what is to be conserved.
    “The destructive capacity of the individual, however vicious, is small; of the state, however well-intentioned, almost limitless. Expand the state and that destructive capacity necessarily expands, too, pari passu.”—Paul Johnson, Modern Times, 1983.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    No, conservatives tend to want incremental rather than sudden changes. It's something of a misleading label anyway without knowing what is to be conserved.
    Yeah that's right. If you're wanting to for example conserve big business profits then they are your man. For stuff like environment, not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    Yeah that's right. If you're wanting to for example conserve big business profits then they are your man. For stuff like environment, not so much.
    I am not interested in helping big business profit, but getting out of the way so they will profit if they please customers. Conservatives also point out that the free market is better for the environment than communism which has a horrible environmental record. Private owners of land have incentives to protect it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    I am not interested in helping big business profit,
    You advocate tax cuts which have this aim.

    but getting out of the way so they will profit if they please customers. Conservatives also point out that the free market is better for the environment than communism which has a horrible environmental record. Private owners of land have incentives to protect it.
    Wow better than communism, that's the bar now is it? But private landholders/businesses have record of blatant disregard for adjacent resources, such as dumping whatever they want into public reserves. If the government lets them get away with it of course. The other problem is the business can go belly up just in time to take all the profits and leave a mess to be picked up by, you guessed it, the taxpayer. There's an incentive to protect the land only as long as it's profitable to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    You advocate tax cuts which have this aim.
    Not the same at all. Tax cuts means that the government confiscates less from them. You accused me of wanting to give them things, which I do not, because anything that the government gives must be taken from someone else. Hence my consistent opposition to subsidies.

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    Wow better than communism, that's the bar now is it?
    It shows that leftist politics and big government have lousy environmental records.

    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    But private landholders/businesses have record of blatant disregard for adjacent resources, such as dumping whatever they want into public reserves. If the government lets them get away with it of course. The other problem is the business can go belly up just in time to take all the profits and leave a mess to be picked up by, you guessed it, the taxpayer. There's an incentive to protect the land only as long as it's profitable to do so.
    The free market allows for taxation of externalities.
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