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    Tales from the 45th Parliament

    Just posting to start a new general discussion thread for federal politics as the 45th Parliament commenced today, in fine style as I was quoted in the Senate again on the opening day.

    Please confine further posts on the 2016 election thread to matters more or less related to the election and its outcomes.

    Certain issues have their own threads, including:

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    The major party stitch-up on Senate term lengths to the detriment of Hinch and Rhiannon has been passed so the latter will only have 3 year Senate terms.

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    Chaos today with the Coalition somehow losing control of the numbers on the floor of parliament, resulting in losing some procedural results and the Reps nearly passing a motion calling for a royal commission into banks (which had been passed by the Senate.) Passing it would not alone have caused a Royal Commission but would have been highly embarrassing.

    As errant MPs returned to the House the Coalition reached equality of numbers, which meant Labor couldn't pass anything but the Coalition couldn't adjourn the House, so debate on the proposed royal commission had to continue.

    Apparently there was sneaky trickery involved but the Coalition might have issues in the whips department.

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    In polling news, Turnbull is the first PM since possibly Gorton to have his personal ratings go down as soon as polling resumed after winning an election.

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    The government votes against itself!

    There was a Labor amendment to an international tax bill moved by Andrew Leigh. The financial services minister, Kelly O’Dwyer, was in the chair, which means she was in charge on the government side with the usual staffers. The Speaker in the chair called for the vote and the government waved it through. As O’Dwyer left the chamber, Leigh thanked the government for voting for a Labor amendment and only then did it dawn on the Coalition what just happened.

    The manager of opposition business, Tony Burke, was up on his feet, making hay while the sun shone.
    Let’s make clear what it is that was carried unanimously in this room today. Every member of the house earlier resolved the following – that the house calls on the government to explain why it has failed to close tax loopholes and increase transparency in Australia.

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    Family First senator Bob Day's election may have been invalid:
    The Turnbull government and Labor have queried whether the Family First senator Bob Day was validly elected during the recent campaign, and the controversy is set to be resolved by the high court. The questions raised late on Tuesday follow a cryptic letter sent to all senators by the Senate president, Stephen Parry, which indicated he was not in a position to advise the governor of South Australia that Day had resigned because there were constitutional issues.

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    Senator Bob Day is now just a Mr. Sad that his company went belly-up.
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    http://kevinbonham.blogspot.com.au/2...lls-crowd.html

    Bob Day Chaos Thrills The Crowd

    This is all hilarious, except for the many people (including the taxpayers of Australia thanks to the court case he will probably never pay up for) who lost money to this shonk.

    Saturday Paper on what a dodgy party Family First is (written before the retrospective eligibility issue arose:

    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/...14770548003880 )

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    Quite hard to follow all of this on again, off again resignation stuff. Maybe he should just call it a Day.
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    And another senator is also in trouble:
    The federal government will ask the Senate to refer a challenge to the eligibility of One Nation senator Rod Culleton to the high court, the second such referral in as many days after the referral of Bob Day after his resignation. On Wednesday Culleton suggested he might not vote in the Senate until the challenge was resolved and would represent himself in proceedings because constitutional law was “right up [his] veggie patch”. Culleton faces a high court challenge to his eligibility from former associate Ian Bruce Bell based on a larceny conviction that was recorded before the July election, and pleading in the alternative that a recent court judgment could make him bankrupt or insolvent.

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    Culleton was already under challenge so I don't think this has added anything new, beyond the possibility that the existing challenge might have been incompetent. The prospect of him perhaps not voting is bad news for the Coalition though since it means they'd need 8/9 non-Green crossbenchers to pass stuff rather than 8/10 minus Day. 8/10 is not that bad because if you get NXT and One Nation onside you only need one of Hinch, Lambie and Leyonhjelm. 8/9 means you need two of them.

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    Culleton is in trouble again, with a letter he wrote to a Queensland magistrate under investigation as a possible attempt to pervert the course of justice.

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    What's an aleet media?
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    Geez a furious Lambie in full flight is truly something to behold!
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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    Geez a furious Lambie in full flight is truly something to behold!
    She has actually improved a lot in my view. For the first two years or so she was just a political accident zone.

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