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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    I think it is very clear that we need to FILTER all people that we take in!
    What about someone who arrived without docs, without notice, stateless, no education, unemployable for many years, no assets and could not speak a word of English? How would rate that asylum seeker?
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    How a group of passionate locals are helping refugees find their 'home among the gum trees'

    ABC Mid North Coast
    1.6.19

    Port Macquarie, a coastal town popular with holiday-makers and retirees, is home to a group of ordinary people who have made it their mission to make refugees and asylum-seekers feel welcome.

    The Mid-North Coast Refugee Support Group has nothing to do with government resettlement areas and does not receive any funding, but group member Beth Flynn said they want refugees to know that they are welcome and have support.

    "There is an obligation as citizens to support people fleeing persecution," Ms Flynn said....

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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    What about someone who arrived without docs, without notice, stateless, no education, unemployable for many years, no assets and could not speak a word of English? How would rate that asylum seeker?
    Without docs? yet with 25,000 to pay for place on a boat per family member? interesting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Without docs? yet with 25,000 to pay for place on a boat per family member? interesting...
    the person I am referring to did not have 25,000 for a place on a boat though they came by boat, they paid ordinary commercial fare
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    the person I am referring to did not have 25,000 for a place on a boat though they came by boat, they paid ordinary commercial fare
    Most asylum seekers arrive by air on a temporary visa of some sort. While the majority of maritime arrivals are genuine refugees, the majority of air arrivals are not.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/nati...-peter-dutton/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    Most asylum seekers arrive by air on a temporary visa of some sort. While the majority of maritime arrivals are genuine refugees, the majority of air arrivals are not.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/nati...-peter-dutton/
    Genuine as its hard to prove they are not genuine?
    P.S. I believe I've been told before by someone on this forum that NewDaily is not a valid source
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Genuine as its hard to prove they are not genuine?
    No, that would be Uncertain. Proven refugee status is determined after background checks in the country of origin.


    P.S. I believe I've been told before by someone on this forum that NewDaily is not a valid source
    No, no - that's The Daily Mail you're thinking of, which certainly is not a valid source. It's garbage.

    Wikipedia Bans Daily Mail As Source Material: ‘Unreliable’

    The New Daily is not too shabby at all. Verified news, no editorials, no editorial policy

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    'Not welcome' in Australia: from Tampa refugee to Fulbright scholar, via New Zealand
    The Guardian
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    ...“One day we were told that little old New Zealand was willing to accept us … that news was a huge, huge blessing. Who the hell is New Zealand, and where is that? That was quickly dispelled by ‘at least it’s as far away from this boat as possible’.”

    This week Nazari, a first-class honours graduate of international relations and diplomacy from the University of Canterbury in Christchurch, was awarded a prestigious Fulbright scholarship, granting him a year’s postgraduate study at Columbia University in New York. The scholarship was awarded just days before World Refugee Day, marked around the world on Thursday....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    'Not welcome' in Australia: from Tampa refugee to Fulbright scholar, via New Zealand
    The Guardian
    20.6.19

    ...“One day we were told that little old New Zealand was willing to accept us … that news was a huge, huge blessing. Who the hell is New Zealand, and where is that? That was quickly dispelled by ‘at least it’s as far away from this boat as possible’.”

    This week Nazari, a first-class honours graduate of international relations and diplomacy from the University of Canterbury in Christchurch, was awarded a prestigious Fulbright scholarship, granting him a year’s postgraduate study at Columbia University in New York. The scholarship was awarded just days before World Refugee Day, marked around the world on Thursday....
    Good story...
    So why do not we focus on accepting people who have potential for becoming Fullbright Scholars? Is it possible to ''handpick'' those from refugee visa applicants by focusing on quality rather than quantity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Good story...
    So why do not we focus on accepting people who have potential for becoming Fullbright Scholars? Is it possible to ''handpick'' those from refugee visa applicants by focusing on quality rather than quantity?
    He was denied entry to Australia, to create an asylum seeker issue for Howard's election campaign

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    He was denied entry to Australia, to create an asylum seeker issue for Howard's election campaign
    If he was identified as a talented individual, it was clearly a mistake not to let him in! This is kind of people we need. He should get in based on his talents rather than on the fact that he is refugee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Good story...
    So why do not we focus on accepting people who have potential for becoming Fullbright Scholars? Is it possible to ''handpick'' those from refugee visa applicants by focusing on quality rather than quantity?
    There is a famous case about a Fullbright Scholar in USA what happened to him, I will get the reference tomorrow when not busy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    There is a famous case about a Fullbright Scholar in USA what happened to him, I will get the reference tomorrow when not busy.
    Irrespective of the case...scholars should always be welcome...I always spoke in favour of encouraging talented people to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    If he was identified as a talented individual, it was clearly a mistake not to let him in! This is kind of people we need. He should get in based on his talents rather than on the fact that he is refugee!
    He was only a child at the time - his talent later became apparent in New Zealand after Australia turned him away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Murray View Post
    He was only a child at the time - his talent later became apparent in New Zealand after Australia turned him away.
    In this case it was a good risk management policy. We should manager risks of who is coming on our shores. At the same time, offer more incentives for talented scholars from all over the world to come to Australia!~
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