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    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by road runner View Post
    The surface of the Earth is the shore of the cosmic ocean. On this shore we’ve learned most of what we know. Recently, we’ve waded a little way out, maybe ankle-deep, and the water seems inviting. Some part of our being knows this is where we came from. We long to return, and we can because the cosmos is also within us. We’re made of star stuff. We are a way for the cosmos to know itself.
    Cosmos: A Personal Voyage narrated by Carl Sagan 1980

    An inspiring thought - we are all made of star stuff. Every bit of me came from the stars.

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    "An inspiring thought - we are all made of star stuff. Every bit of me came from the stars."

    And every bit of you and me are destined to go to the stars.

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    Creationism almost irrelevant in Australia:
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    The results have demonstrated a downward shift over time from 60% of the class in 1986 believing a god had something to do with the origin of humans, to 29% in 2017. Conversely, the percentage of students convinced that a god had nothing to do with the origin of humans rose from 25% in 1986 to 62% in 2017. The creationist belief that a god created the world de novo within the last 10,000 years declined from 10% in 1986 to 3.6% in 2017. The decline in the Australian students’ commitment to religious views about divine creation, especially creationism, considerably exceeded the corresponding beliefs among American students and their general public, where belief in creationism while slowly declining appears to have remained in the 40% range, four times that seen in our Australian survey.
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    The very low and declining levels of commitment to the creationist view that god created humans de novo suggests this view is unlikely to be a significant obstruction to accepting the scientific evidence for evolution. The results of the survey of UNSW students correlate with changes documented in the census of the general Australian public suggesting that our survey results of first-year biology students reflect overall changes in the Australian community as a whole.

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    I am surprised that Capa Fan claims the world is only 6000 years old when my consultant building engineer tells me it took billions of years for the clay to become so dense? Capa Fan appears to be accepting Einstein's and Newton's theories without question yet rejects science in areas outside of his expertise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Ho

    I am surprised that Capa Fan claims the world is only 6000 years old when my consultant building engineer tells me it took billions of years for the clay to become so dense?
    Considering evolutionists would not believe that the top layers of clay or any rock are billions of years old, I have every reason to doubt. Seriously, does he think that such upper layers are from Paleoproterozoic Era? Clay minerals are the result of weathering of rocks.

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    Capa Fan appears to be accepting Einstein's and Newton's theories without question
    Of course! They have enormous experimental support, and could be falsified by experiment if they were false, but no such falsification exists.

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    yet rejects science in areas outside of his expertise.
    Rather, I question claims when there are assumptions and outright holes in them. What is the current compaction rate? Has it been compacting at the same rate? Would a greater weight of sediment above the clay layers would cause gravitational compaction sooner? Would a higher temp accelerate any diagenetic changes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Considering evolutionists would not believe that the top layers of clay or any rock are billions of years old, I have every reason to doubt. Seriously, does he think that such upper layers are from Paleoproterozoic Era? Clay minerals are the result of weathering of rocks.


    Of course! They have enormous experimental support, and could be falsified by experiment if they were false, but no such falsification exists.


    Rather, I question claims when there are assumptions and outright holes in them. What is the current compaction rate? Has it been compacting at the same rate? Would a greater weight of sediment above the clay layers would cause gravitational compaction sooner? Would a higher temp accelerate any diagenetic changes?
    Apparently the magnetic pole is shifting rapidly, the previous flips have taken approximately 330,000 years. Are you sure that this science is incorrect as God only created the world 6,023 years ago? I had an earth birthday party on October 23 1997 did you also?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Apparently the magnetic pole is shifting rapidly, the previous flips have taken approximately 330,000 years. Are you sure that this science is incorrect as God only created the world 6,023 years ago?
    Magnetic field reversal is much faster than that.

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    I had an earth birthday party on October 23 1997 did you also?
    I told you I don't think that the Bible's creation date can be tied down to the nearest year, let alone day or time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Magnetic field reversal is much faster than that.


    I told you I don't think that the Bible's creation date can be tied down to the nearest year, let alone day or time.
    Who has more authority on Biblical matters yourself or Bishop Ussher?

    Are you suggesting that the magnetic fields flip 50 times faster than the relevant science theory states so that can fit into your 6,000 year time slot? You could write a scientific paper on such?
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    Can Jesus perform time travel or/and he just insert himself anywhere? Would he mess up history by doing so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Who has more authority on Biblical matters yourself or Bishop Ussher?
    Me.

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    Are you suggesting that the magnetic fields flip 50 times faster than the relevant science theory states so that can fit into your 6,000 year time slot? You could write a scientific paper on such?
    Explained in the article.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Me.


    Explained in the article.
    I checked your reply on the phone and did not notice it had link will check out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post

    You are putting yourself up against this guy? He is a GM of theology!
    James Ussher (or Usher; 4 January 1581 – 21 March 1656) was the Church of Ireland Archbishop of Armagh and Primate of All Ireland between 1625 and 1656. He was a prolific scholar and church leader, who today is most famous for his identification of the genuine letters of the church father, Ignatius, and for his chronology that sought to establish the time and date of the creation as "the entrance of the night preceding the 23rd day of October... the year before Christ 4004"; that is, around 6 pm on 22 October 4004 BC, per the proleptic Julian calendar.

    Ussher was born in Dublin to a well-to-do family. His maternal grandfather, James Stanihurst, had been speaker of the Irish parliament. Ussher's father, Arland Ussher, was a clerk in chancery who married James Stanihurst's daughter, Margaret (by his first wife Anne Fitzsimon), who was reportedly a Roman Catholic.[1]
    Ussher's younger, and only surviving, brother, Ambrose, became a distinguished scholar of Arabic and Hebrew. According to his chaplain and biographer, Nicholas Bernard, the elder brother was taught to read by two blind, spinster aunts. A gifted polyglot, he entered Dublin Free School and then the newly founded (1591) Trinity College Dublin on 9 January 1594, at the age of thirteen (not an unusual age at the time). He had received his Bachelor of Arts degree by 1598 and was a fellow and MA by 1600 (though Bernard claims he did not gain his MA till 1601). In May 1602, he was ordained in the Trinity College Chapel as a deacon in the Protestant, established, Church of Ireland (and possibly priest on the same day) by his uncle Henry Ussher, the Archbishop of Armagh and Primate of All Ireland.
    Ussher went on to become Chancellor of St Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin in 1605 and Prebend of Finglas. He became Professor of Theological Controversies at Trinity College and a Bachelor of Divinity in 1607, Doctor of Divinity in 1612, and then Vice-Chancellor in 1615 and vice-provost in 1616. In 1613, he married Phoebe, daughter of a previous Vice-Provost, Luke Challoner, and published his first work. In 1615, he was closely involved with the drawing up of the first confession of faith of the Church of Ireland.
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    I'm well aware of who Ussher was, thanks—see Archbishop’s achievement. His figure was in the right ballpark.
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    So if Jesus can add atoms via multiplying loaves and fishes then presumably he can also make them disappear with out any consequences. But why the hassle if he splits a few? Can he split without consequences? When I consume the holy communion host if I was to cough half out on the ground is that half of the body and blood of Jesus fertilizing the roses? Like top half or backside?
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