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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
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    Incidentally the FIDE tweet I previously saw about the matter from the official account appears to have been deleted, though various officers have commented in an unofficial capacity.
    ''A guy gave us this picture and also the phone''.
    Does the guy have a name? .
    Sounds odd...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    ''A guy gave us this picture and also the phone''.
    Does the guy have a name? .
    Sounds odd...
    It does. Can easily imagine though that some player who suspected Rausis might have arranged for someone else to monitor him in an irregular manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    ''A guy gave us this picture and also the phone''.
    Does the guy have a name? .
    Sounds odd...
    We can only presume that Igor must have been habituating the same cubicle as they would not have scanned every cubicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    We can only presume that Igor must have been habituating the same cubicle as they would not have scanned every cubicle.
    Or they could have followed him and observed which one he went into. But if the Watson report is correct it sounds like he may have been hiding the phone inside the cubicle and therefore returning to the scene of the crime.

    Might be worthwhile for large events that don't have metal detectors to now and then inspect the toilet roll holder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Might be worthwhile for large events that don't have metal detectors to now and then inspect the toilet roll holder.
    Wouldn't the phone be placed in, or behind, the cistern (possibly in a plastic bag) - that seems to be the preferred method on tv crime shows? And used by a previous cheat.

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    https://www.fide.com/images/stories/...ples_final.pdf

    FIDE resolution on cheating - this comes from before the current incident.

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    Why would the prosecutors not reveal how that photo was taken? Is it because it was taken illegally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Why would the prosecutors not reveal how that photo was taken? Is it because it was taken illegally?
    What prosecutors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    What prosecutors?
    Fide Commission, they deny they took the photo. So do the organizers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Fide Commission, they deny they took the photo. So do the organizers...
    Diego Maradonna would have the perfect explanation but it was probably on a selfie stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Fide Commission, they deny they took the photo. So do the organizers...
    That is all true. The full story, plus the final stages of the game, will be in - ad alert - Sydney's Sun-Herald this Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Rogers View Post
    That is all true. The full story, plus the final stages of the game, will be in - ad alert - Sydney's Sun-Herald this Sunday.
    Looking forward to it!
    The reason I find this case so interesting has more to do with one of the Subjects I am teaching (IT Ethics) than me being a chess player and while I obviously understand the importance of catching the cheaters, if Rausis chooses to take legal action based on the privacy breaches...I do fancy his chances of winning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Looking forward to it!
    The reason I find this case so interesting has more to do with one of the Subjects I am teaching (IT Ethics) than me being a chess player and while I obviously understand the importance of catching the cheaters, if Rausis chooses to take legal action based on the privacy breaches...I do fancy his chances of winning.
    But his privacy was not invaded that I can see. He didn't have his zipper undone for example. When out exercising night time (and mornings) sometimes I have no choice but to use the bush for the loo and I could be caught for urinating in public so the crime is associated with the action and the place, as there was no action in the chess hall cubicle maybe there cannot be any crime of invasion of privacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Looking forward to it! The reason I find this case so interesting has more to do with one of the Subjects I am teaching (IT Ethics) than me being a chess player and while I obviously understand the importance of catching the cheaters, if Rausis chooses to take legal action based on the privacy breaches...I do fancy his chances of winning.
    Who would he take legal action against? Nobody has admitted to taking the photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Who would he take legal action against? Nobody has admitted to taking the photo.
    Various options: I am not familiar with specific privacy laws in France. But i would think that he can
    a) contact police and require investigation b) organisers as they should be responsible for the facilities
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