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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    May I suggest your re-read post 211
    I did read it, and considered it not relevant, comrade AC.
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    can computers cheat? have we got any examples of program hacking without human involvement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ER View Post
    can computers cheat? have we got any examples of program hacking without human involvement?
    You mean apart from being able to access built-in opening books and endgame table bases?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    You mean apart from being able to access built-in opening books and endgame table bases?
    But that would have been perfectly legal since I presume this is the way computers operate.

    I was thinking more of situations like programs having certain opening novelties encrypted and supported
    by passwords etc.

    Would successful / unsuccessful endeavors from other programs to hack into this kind of
    information be considered as cheating and if yes what would have been the retributions.

    BTW has FIDE any by laws / rules / regulations regarding computer involvement in the game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ER View Post
    BTW has FIDE any by laws / rules / regulations regarding computer involvement in the game?
    Yes

    https://www.fide.com/fide/handbook.h...&view=category

    However it's about as useful as athletics having rules about motorbikes. Chess is a contest between humans; competitions against or between computers are for research, preparation or exhibition purposes and you can make up your own rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Rout View Post
    Yes

    https://www.fide.com/fide/handbook.h...&view=category

    However it's about as useful as athletics having rules about motorbikes. Chess is a contest between humans; competitions against or between computers are for research, preparation or exhibition purposes and you can make up your own rules.
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    Or, “You don't let a forklift into a weightlifting competition.”—Bruce H.P. Marsick (1928–1991), North Island chess co-champion, 1956.
    “The destructive capacity of the individual, however vicious, is small; of the state, however well-intentioned, almost limitless. Expand the state and that destructive capacity necessarily expands, too, pari passu.”—Paul Johnson, Modern Times, 1983.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Or, “You don't let a forklift into a weightlifting competition.”—Bruce H.P. Marsick (1928–1991), North Island chess co-champion, 1956.
    classic! leaves AC's (attempts for) famous analogies for dead!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ER View Post
    classic! leaves AC's (attempts for) famous analogies for dead!
    Remember that the best wine is kept to last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Remember that the best wine is kept to last.
    correct!
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