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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Last stretch to show exception to the rule

    The Australia/Israel Review Vol. 22 No. 14 (1-22 October 1997) states that Karlis Ozols ‘executed thousands of Jews and liquidated entire Latvian villages during World War II’.http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/ozols.html

    If we give leeway for Jews not to play him (fair enough of course) though he may not have harmed them personally and directly then it opens the door for other persecuted nationalities and persons to adopt a shared hurt and refuse to play particular people. Sort of rules are made to be broken
    As usual the ridiculous lengths you have to go to to find an example that supposedly busts the rule just shows that the rule is sound. It doesn't anyway; such cases can be dealt with by organisers refusing to invite the player to their events and if necessary by banning the player (assuming they have been found or conclusively shown to be guilty.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    The Australia/Israel Review Vol. 22 No. 14 (1-22 October 1997) states that Karlis Ozols ‘executed thousands of Jews and liquidated entire Latvian villages during World War II’.http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/ozols.html
    This was never proven and the case against him was dropped. Ian Rogers wrote an obit of Ozols and seemed to think he was guilty, but the best evidence he has seemed to be Ozols' defensible claim that Soviet communism was even more murderous than Nazism. That of course would not be an excuse for the war times he was accused of—the term is often a misnomer, because mass-murder of Jews has nothing to do with the war. But anti-communism doesn't prove pro-Nazism or Jew-hatred.

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    If we give leeway for Jews not to play him (fair enough of course) though he may not have harmed them personally and directly then it opens the door for other persecuted nationalities and persons to adopt a shared hurt and refuse to play particular people. Sort of rules are made to be broken
    If Ozols really had been proven to be guilty, then a boycott by Jews would have been the least of his worries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    So I think all these people wanting to avoid playing a particular opponent who has not even done anything to them, because of some phobia or politics or whatever, should ideally just get over it.
    A player once remarked to me that he didn't like playing friends as if he was to win it meant that they had to lose. I hadn't really thought about this but it does underline that there are numerous reasons why people might rather not play a particular player.

    There has to be a very good reason, for instance reasonable apprehension of violence, to pair players other than in accordance with the rules, as it potentially spoils the tournament for other players. If you want to not be located near a particular individual at a restaurant, cinema, conference etc irrespective of inconvenience to everyone else you can expect to have it pointed out to you that you don't have to be there, and chess organisers shouldn't be obliged to be any more indulgent.

    Though I don't see this as being an ethical issue, more one of conduct. I suppose calling it a Code of Ethics rather than merely a Code of Conduct might be seen as carrying a bit more force.

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    Further changes to the Code of Ethics have been made at my suggestion. The main points are:

    1. Previously the Code applied only to certain national events, events sponsored or supported by the ACF and Australian players playing outside Australia or on the internet. It now also applies to all events registered for FIDE rating in Australia, whether those events are actually held or not.

    2. Previously the Code applied only to players and organisers at the included events (although some sections also applied to arbiters). It now explicitly applies also to anyone who is training, trading, arbiting, supervising or spectating at such events as well.

    3. The Code now also covers cases where relevant officials fail to ensure the proper conduct of events according to the FIDE Competition Rules (where relevant), other relevant FIDE regulations, and all relevant ACF by-laws and decisions. Previously only the FIDE Laws of Chess and the tournament rules and conditions were referred to here.

    There will probably be further tidying up down the track to address any minor inconsistencies created by these changes and further prune the many outdated references to the 2001 Laws of Chess.

    Link to current version: https://auschess.org.au/acf/wp-conte...-July-2017.pdf

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