View Poll Results: Should the thread named "The Great Global Warming Swindle" have its title changed?

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  1. 10-01-2014, 06:26 PM #1
    Tony Dowden
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    Proposed Renaming of Great Global Warming Swindle thread

    It's time this thread was renamed: it might mislead some poor soul
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  2. 10-01-2014, 07:36 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Dowden View Post
    It's time this thread was renamed: it might mislead some poor soul
    Tend to agree actually. Trying to pick a suitably neutral heading. "Climate Change" is an option but tends to imply that it is definitely real, which some might dispute. "Climate Change debates"? Submissions welcome. Might end up leaving it as it is as the title has been so-long established even if it is misleading.
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  3. 10-01-2014, 08:11 PM #3
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    I think "Climate Change" is fine. Like the "Same Sex Marriage" thread, some may disagree whether it's real but that's what the discussion is about.
    So what's your excuse? For running like the devil's chasing you?

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  4. 10-01-2014, 08:21 PM #4
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    The point isn't 'Climate Change', which of course is always happening and means nothing, but catastrophic (no) anthropogenic (no) climate change, which sadly for the true believers is failing the test of forecasts vs reality.
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  5. 10-01-2014, 08:26 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbes View Post
    anthropogenic (no)
    Dream on.
    So what's your excuse? For running like the devil's chasing you?

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  6. 10-01-2014, 09:15 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Tend to agree actually. Trying to pick a suitably neutral heading. "Climate Change" is an option but tends to imply that it is definitely real, which some might dispute. "Climate Change debates"? Submissions welcome. Might end up leaving it as it is as the title has been so-long established even if it is misleading.
    After seven years of the thread being named "The Great Global Warming Swindle", I'm tempted to suggest re-naming it "An Inconvenient Truth" for balance. Especially since nobody actually remembers the "The Great Global Warming Swindle" 'documentary', which seems to have faded into well-deserved obscurity.

    A more serious suggestion: "Does Man-Made Global Warming Exist"?
  7. 10-01-2014, 10:38 PM #7
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    Poll added

    A poll has been added on this issue - result (including breakdown of voting by known view on issue) will be influential but not necessarily binding.

    There is no "depends" option so only vote yes if you're happy enough with taking your chances on what we come up with that you want the present title gone.
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  8. 11-01-2014, 03:12 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    A more serious suggestion: "Does Man-Made Global Warming Exist"?
    That is reasonable.
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  9. 11-01-2014, 04:48 PM #9
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    I assume there will be a second poll for the name when this one closes but "Does Man-Made Global Warming Exist"? sounds good but with the ? inside the ""s.
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  10. 11-01-2014, 06:43 PM #10
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    Yep, I am also fine with the "Does Man-Made Global Warming Exist?" suggestion.

    But to change the subject, is AC's vote allowed to stand? Since he is a convicted felon serving a sentence, oughtn't he to be disenfranchised?
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  11. 11-01-2014, 06:56 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbes View Post
    But to change the subject, is AC's vote allowed to stand? Since he is a convicted felon serving a sentence, oughtn't he to be disenfranchised?
    His vote was cast before he was banned and is valid, though I'd ignore it if he had been permanently banned.

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  12. 11-01-2014, 07:11 PM #12
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    It's great to see everyone in agreement about something on this thread!

    And Rincewind is correct: the question mark should be inside the quotes.
  13. 18-01-2014, 10:21 PM #13
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    The title of the thread was changed.
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  14. 23-01-2014, 11:00 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    The title of the thread was changed.
    Thanks Kevin. I didn't notice there was a poll, otherwise I would have voted in favour. I actually wasn't aware that the original title was a play on a documentary, so there you are.
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  15. 31-01-2014, 01:02 PM #15
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    Posts moved and thread locked

    As this is a procedural thread, posts discussing the substantive issue have been moved to the main thread.

    As the procedural issue is settled and to ensure discussion of the substantive issue isn't duplicated across threads, this thread is closed.
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