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    I met a Christian Palestinian last night, from a rich and educated family with large land holdings in Palestine, be is most upset because just a few weeks ago the family land was confiscated. If he was from a certain other religion this would not have happened. He wanted to make a replica of Bethlehem for Christian pilgrims with all funds going to charity. Now his relos are in no-man's land. Not sure which thread to put in, sorry if wrong one

    Actually when I have a second think about it, the persecution of Christians in other lands could also be a land grab in disguise.
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    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    Unprecedented: Hungary Opens Office for Persecuted Christians
    by Raymond Ibrahim, FrontPage Magazine, 14 October 2016

    The nation of Hungary recently did something that is as unprecedented as it is commonsensical and humanitarian: it "has become the first government to open an office specifically to address the persecution of Christians in the Middle East and Europe."

    Zoltan Balog, Hungary's Minister for Human Resources, explained:

    Today, Christianity has become the most persecuted religion, where out of five people killed [for] religious reasons, four of them are Christians. In 81 countries around the world, Christians are persecuted, and 200 million Christians live in areas where they are discriminated against. Millions of Christian lives are threatened by followers of radical religious ideologies.

    "Followers of radical religious ideologies" is of course code for Muslims—they who are responsible for the overwhelming majority of Christian persecution in the world.

    Most recently a report found that 88% of the 231 Christian refugees interviewed in Germany have suffered religiously motivated persecution in the form of insults, death threats, and sexual assaults. Some were pressured to convert to Islam. "I really didn't know that after coming to Germany I would be harassed because of my faith in the very same way as back in Iran," one Christian refugee said. "These are not isolated cases. I don't know of any refugee shelter from Garmisch to Hamburg where we have not found such cases," said a German authority.

    Is persecuting religious minorities the behavior of people who are in need of a sympathetic welcome by Europeans and Americans? Or is this behavior yet another reminder that it is non-Muslims from the Middle East who are truly in need of sanctuary?

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    In fact, it's the opposite: report after report has shown that in Western nations persecuted Christians are "at the bottom of the heap" of refugees to be granted asylum. Despite the U.S. government's acknowledgement that ISIS is committing genocide against Christians in Syria, the Obama administration has taken in 5,435 Muslims, but only 28 Christians—even though Christians are approximately 10 percent of Syria's population; in other words, to be on the same ratio with Muslims, at least 500 Christians should've been granted asylum, not 28.

    There are even some benefits in taking in Mideast Christians instead of Muslims. Christians are easily assimilated in Western countries, due to the shared Christian heritage. Muslims follow a completely different blueprint, Islamic law, or Sharia—which condemns and calls for constant war (jihad) against all non-Muslims, and advocates any number of distinctly anti-Western practices (female subjugation and sex slavery, death for blasphemers and apostates, etc.). Hence it's no surprise that many Muslim asylum seekers are anti-Western at heart—or, as the German police union chief recently said, Muslim migrants "despise our country and laugh at our justice."
    “If Algeria introduced a resolution declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13 with 26 abstentions.” — Abba Eban on the UN general assembly

    “You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.” — Obi-Wan Kenobi on the UN kakistocracy

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    ↑↑ Atrocious! Of course, the Left don't care about the mass murders of Christians—unless they can exploit them to claim that Western discrimination against Christians is not nearly as bad as that in the Middle East.
    “If Algeria introduced a resolution declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13 with 26 abstentions.” — Abba Eban on the UN general assembly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    ↑↑ Atrocious! Of course, the Left don't care about the mass murders of Christians—unless they can exploit them to claim that Western discrimination against Christians is not nearly as bad as that in the Middle East.
    So you consider Copts Christians but yet consider the mostly Lutheran population of 1930s Germany as non-Crhistian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind View Post
    So you consider Copts Christians but yet consider the mostly Lutheran population of 1930s Germany as non-Crhistian?
    Of course. The German church was infested with liberalism, except for the anti-Nazi Confessing Church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Of course. The German church was infested with liberalism, except for the anti-Nazi Confessing Church.
    You're good for a laugh at least Jono.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    ↑↑ Atrocious! Of course, the Left don't care about the mass murders of Christians—unless they can exploit them to claim that Western discrimination against Christians is not nearly as bad as that in the Middle East.
    I find the news of these ethnocidal attacks to be similarly sad to the news of the pointless attacks on random innocents in Manchester.

    However there is no net Western discrimination against Christians, at least not in Australia. What you call discrimination against Christians refers to things like 18C that may impact upon certain extreme expressions of supposedly religious views, and not against Christians per se. But in fact the same positions that may be tripped up by anti-discrimination law continue to enjoy massive discrimination in their favour through their illiberal political influence on the laws of the land in areas such as same-sex marriage, euthanasia, abortion (still illegal on demand in Queensland) and censorship.

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