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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    The situations are slightly different because the SSM debate is one in which religion-related arguments appear frequently, including the claim that SSM is an example of a general trend of standards turning upside down and so on. I personally find such claims stupid and melodramatic but they are nonetheless on-topic. All the same I think Oepty's post strayed too much into proselytising rather than just sticking to the issue and I've therefore moved it and the discussion that followed.

    I don't have any problem with people discussing Oepty's claimed double standards but the question is where. If it's going to be done as unsubtly as jammo's attack in that case then it should happen in the religion section. We should be able to discuss issues in world sports without having a poster tell another poster that they are going to hell for hypocrisy only a handful of posts in. I certainly wouldn't like to see that style of attack carry over into similar discussions on chess threads.
    I just find it ridicilous that somebody who was caused such a stink in regards to my 'god' cant even apply the word of god adequately enough to live in accordance with his guidelines.
    Oepty says he has a personal relationship but doesnt seem to understand his teachings.

    Therefore any critisicm of his over the top devotion is completely valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    The situations are slightly different because the SSM debate is one in which religion-related arguments appear frequently, including the claim that SSM is an example of a general trend of standards turning upside down and so on. I personally find such claims stupid and melodramatic but they are nonetheless on-topic. All the same I think Oepty's post strayed too much into proselytising rather than just sticking to the issue and I've therefore moved it and the discussion that followed.

    I don't have any problem with people discussing Oepty's claimed double standards but the question is where. If it's going to be done as unsubtly as jammo's attack in that case then it should happen in the religion section. We should be able to discuss issues in world sports without having a poster tell another poster that they are going to hell for hypocrisy only a handful of posts in. I certainly wouldn't like to see that style of attack carry over into similar discussions on chess threads.
    People can discuss my claimed double standards. I have no idea what is being claimed I am showing double standards about. Perhaps someone can start a thread and explain to me where I have gone wrong. That includes GUB who is now off my ignore list. However I do not see how explaining that Jobe Watson broke the WADA code and should be banned because of it shows a double standard. Maybe I have overlooked something but I have no idea what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Uncle Bulgaria
    I just find it ridicilous that somebody who was caused such a stink in regards to my 'god' cant even apply the word of god adequately enough to live in accordance with his guidelines.
    Oepty says he has a personal relationship but doesnt seem to understand his teachings.

    Therefore any critisicm of his over the top devotion is completely valid.
    Please explain to me what you mean by "doesn't seem to understand his teachings"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    I am not disputing the validity of the criticism; I am just ruling that heavy-handed versions of it like jammo's are not to be posted in the early posts of an otherwise secular thread.

    If someone wants to quote Oepty's post from that thread and argue that it is inconsistent with his religious views in the religion section they can go for it.
    It would help if someone explained to me what and why I am being criticized, I have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oepty
    Please explain to me what you mean by "doesn't seem to understand his teachings"
    Have a look at the 3rd post in the jobe watson thread written by jammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oepty
    That includes GUB who is now off my ignore list.
    Its nice to see youve stopped pretending to ignore me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Uncle Bulgaria
    Its nice to see youve stopped pretending to ignore me.
    I really was ignoring you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Uncle Bulgaria
    Have a look at the 3rd post in the jobe watson thread written by jammo.
    Do you seriously think that applies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oepty
    Do you seriously think that applies?
    It certainly does.

    Maybe you are one of those part-time christians ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Uncle Bulgaria
    It certainly does.

    Maybe you are one of those part-time christians ?
    How did I judge? How did I condemn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oepty
    How did I judge? How did I condemn?
    Were you dux of the 'special' school ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Uncle Bulgaria
    Were you dux of the 'special' school ?
    So you cannot back up your claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oepty
    So you cannot back up your claims.

    scott, stop making us feel sorry for you
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    GUB you think you are being clever by pointing to a Bible verse which you do not understand and then claiming I have done something against it without providing anything to back up what you said. I gave you the opportunity to try and have a serious discussion about the issue but you obviously have no willingness to do so.
    I have also now read, since I took you off ignore, your post in the Jobe Watson thread. The sad thing is you made the kind of judgement in your post that the verse is talking about, the kind of judgement I did not make, the condemnation I did not make.
    For both of these things back on the ignore list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oepty
    GUB you think you are being clever by pointing to a Bible verse which you do not understand and then claiming I have done something against it without providing anything to back up what you said. I gave you the opportunity to try and have a serious discussion about the issue but you obviously have no willingness to do so.
    I have also now read, since I took you off ignore, your post in the Jobe Watson thread. The sad thing is you made the kind of judgement in your post that the verse is talking about, the kind of judgement I did not make, the condemnation I did not make.
    For both of these things back on the ignore list.

    scott, you judged Watson that is what you did, so you were breaking that Biblical moral of not judging others otherwise you will also be judged. (and he without sin throw the first stone). This is what Jammo was pointing out to you but you were too thick to understand.
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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