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    An interesting little event!

    Nigel uses the Catalan to upset the Women's World Champ!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliott Renzies View Post
    Nigel uses the Catalan to upset the Women's World Champ!
    Not an upset - he is rated eight points higher than her. Even if that's a little bit generous, if he is white against her in a game he is more likely to win it than she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Not an upset - he is rated eight points higher than her. Even if that's a little bit generous, if he is white against her in a game he is more likely to win it than she is.
    yeah, I was talking about age difference. Not to mention that Hou Yifan has already entered the I can be the next Polgar trip (not likely in my opinion)! Then again Nigel has produced quite a few goodies recently and I think references to him as the only 50 + yo GM to make the best 100, will sooner rather than later
    he is already within the best 80?
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    Sounds a bit unfair to Kasparov who recently demolished Short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad View Post
    Sounds a bit unfair to Kasparov who recently demolished Short.
    To each their own! Garry Kimovich belongs to a different category. Had he returned to tournament chess, it would not take him long to establish himself along the best 10!
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    Ivan Sokolov, who I chatted with in Al Ain 16 months ago, should never be underestimated. On his day he can beat anyone. His books are good value too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliott Renzies View Post
    Garry Kimovich belongs to a different category!
    Garik Kimovich Weinstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by normanghaskell View Post
    Garik Kimovich Weinstein
    him too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliott Renzies View Post
    yeah, I was talking about age difference.
    I am reminded of Reagan's famous quote from his debate against Mondale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    I am reminded of Reagan's famous quote from his debate against Mondale.
    LMAO Classic!!!
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    There's been some post-match controversy about the rating of Game 6, won by Hou Yifan after Short had already scored 3.5 points. Nigel relied on FIDE Handbook Rating Regs 6.5 "Where a match is over a specific number of games, those played after one player has won shall not be rated" to have the final game not rated. Clearly he was totally within his rights but he has copped quite a spray from the organisers for doing so. This has set off yet another exchange of Short vs Polgar pleasantries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    There's been some post-match controversy about the rating of Game 6, won by Hou Yifan after Short had already scored 3.5 points. Nigel relied on FIDE Handbook Rating Regs 6.5 "Where a match is over a specific number of games, those played after one player has won shall not be rated" to have the final game not rated. Clearly he was totally within his rights but he has copped quite a spray from the organisers for doing so. This has set off yet another exchange of Short vs Polgar pleasantries.
    Van Vely, who is one of the organizers of the event has also been active on Twitter criticizing Short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Van Vely, who is one of the organizers of the event has also been active on Twitter criticizing Short.
    If it's a FIDE rating rule I don't see where Short has the option to waive it, or to demand that it not apply if he had won, unless there's another provision that wasn't quoted in post 11 above and that I can't see on a quick browse.

    In any event if people don't like the rule they should lobby to change it before the event, not retrospectively. The players' decisions in the last game were in part informed by having the freedom to play in a crowd-pleasing style because the game was unrated (which is one of the benefits of the rule, though not its purpose).
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    I would find it amazing that people are even arguing about this situation, except that it is Nigel and some people dislike him for various reasons and may for that reason not realise he is completely in the right. The whole thing is ludicrous. The rule is black and white, well known, and there is no discretion. Furthermore the organisers apparently did not give Nigel a straight answer about the question, meaning that he went into the last game not knowing whether the organisers intended to attempt to have it rated or not. A farcical situation that isn't even acceptable at club level.
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    I thought The Nige was well liked, no-body had posted anything negative when he toured Australia before, everyone seemed to like it.
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