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    I'll leave it to others to interpret this!
    The Handbook says (for events ending before the end of June 2013):
    Zonals and Sub-Zonals

    IM: 1st, up to 3 players = title.
    ≥ 9 games ≥ 66 2/3% = title
    ≥ 9 games IM Performance counts as 13 games.

    Subject to notes b to e, given below:

    (b) Where a zonal/subzonal is played with preliminaries and finals, the results shall be pooled.
    (c) Subzonals must be approved by the Presidential Board.
    (d) For zonals/subzonals only one IM/WIM title can be obtained based on a result ≥66 2/3 percent, only two FM/WFM titles can be obtained based on a result ≥50 percent.
    (e) The result must be achieved in consecutive games starting from the first game the player plays in the tournament. If a player achieves ≥ 6 points (3 points for CM/WCM), the title is awarded, even if the player does not play 9 games (7 games for CM/WCM) . These titles shall be awarded retrospectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altecman
    Are we sure that the interpretation of the Fide handbook is correct? Its possible that 1st = title to a maximum of 3 players is because they only give 1 IM and 2 FM titles.
    I am fairly sure it is correct, but cannot be certain. It is FIDE we are dealing with and it can be hard to work out what they mean with anything at times. There have also been incidence of the Handbook being wrong because it has not be updated as well.
    I think it is not certain what will happen until we hear whether the titles are approved or not.
    However I highly doubt your interpretation because the rule comes from a section dealing with the awarding of the IM title only. The FM requirement is mentioned elsewhere in the tables. But it is FIDE.
    Last edited by Oepty; 10-05-2013 at 12:03 PM.

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    This appears to be the key point

    Quote Originally Posted by heligan
    (d) For zonals/subzonals only one IM/WIM title can be obtained based on a result ≥66 2/3 percent, only two FM/WFM titles can be obtained based on a result ≥50 percent.
    However if title-seekers tie for first then they are not obtaining their title based on a result of a certain score; they are obtaining it based on tying for first. Therefore it would seem that as taken literally they are not counted in the above. But we won't know until they are confirmed. (I might send an enquiry in advance.)

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    Women's Zonal is finished: http://chess-results.com/tnr98271.as...5&lan=1&wi=821

    Berezina, Guo tie for first. They will play off again.

    Katherine Jarek and Savithri Narenthran tied for third. My understanding is that Katherine is WIM-elect on tiebreak and Savithri is WFM-elect.

    Wijesuriya and Vukikomoala tied for the other WFM title.

    Congrats to all. I will apply for all direct titles for Australian players once the event has been rated.
    Last edited by Kevin Bonham; 10-05-2013 at 01:52 PM.

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    Final-final update

    Board 1: both have about 20 minutes each, a queen+3 minor pieces+5 pawns. Igor is pushing very hard, looks like he is playing the game of his life.

    Board 2: Justin has less than 8 minutes vs 40 minutes of Max. Justin is desperately trying to push through the castle that Max constructed. There is no obvious win.

    Board 4: Anton converted the endgame.

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    Thanks for the updates Vlad; they are great.

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    Well we're making some progress here: we know that Ari Dale has a title. We don't know what it is yet though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    Well we're making some progress here: we know that Ari Dale has a title. We don't know what it is yet though.
    Igor won
    Justin drew
    Ari won

    What is the title situation?

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    Congratulations IM-Elect and Zonal Champion Igor Bjelbork!

    OK there are now two possible interpretations:

    1. The zonal winner taking an IM title does not affect the ability of another person to take an IM title by score:

    IM =Igor and Ari, FM = Justin and Anton

    2. The zonal winner taking an IM title does affect the ability of another person to take an IM title by score:

    IM = Igor, FM=Ari and Justin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    Congratulations IM-Elect and Zonal Champion Igor Bjelbork!

    OK there are now two possible interpretations:

    1. The zonal winner taking an IM title does not affect the ability of another person to take an IM title by score:

    IM =Igor and Ari, FM = Justin and Anton

    2. The zonal winner taking an IM title does affect the ability of another person to take an IM title by score:

    IM = Igor, FM=Ari and Justin.
    Well whatever happens Justin has a FIDE Master title. We will announce this in the club tonight.
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    It is still all subject to the event being rated and FIDE confirmation of course.

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    Congrats to Igor !

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    Igor's TPR is 2508 so easily an IM-strength performance. However but for it being a zonal title it wouldn't be a norm because he did not play enough IMs!
    Last edited by Kevin Bonham; 10-05-2013 at 02:26 PM.

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    IM titles to Igor Bjelobrk and Ari Dale

    FM titles to Justin Tan and Anton Smirnov

    WIM title to Katherine Jarek

    WFM titles to Savithri Narenthran and Hilda Vukikomoala

    Various CM and WCM titles

    Women's playoff starts in 10 minutes!

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    OK, the Zonal website lists the following tiebreaks:

    In the case of a tie between two players for first place, a playoff match will be required to decide the title of Zonal Champion and the qualifying place for the 2013 World Cup.

    The playoff match will begin at 4.00 pm on the day of the final round.

    The format will be:

    2 games, 25m+10s per move (draw for colours).
    If still tied: 2 games, 10m+10s per move (draw for colours)
    If still tied then: 2 games, 5m+3s per move (draw for colours)
    If still tied: 1 game, 5m for White, 4 m for Black, 3s inc from move 61, Drawn game is a win for Black. (As per World Cup 2013 tie-break regulations D.1.04.3.8 FIDE Handbook).

    In the case of more than 2 players tied for first then the Zonal Champion Title and qualifying place for the 2013 World Cup will be decided by the following Tie-Breaks:

    In the case of all players playing rated opponents:

    Highest Sum of opponents ratings (removing the lowest rated opponent)
    If still tied - continue removing the next lowest rated opponent until the tie is broken.

    In the case of players playing unrated opponents:

    Sum of progressive scores highest wins)
    If still tied - remove the first round (and second, third etc rounds) until the tie is broken. (As per FIDE World Championship Provisions D.1.01.5.1).

    For other place-getters:

    Direct encounter (result between tied players)
    Sum of Progressive Score
    Solkoff Score (Sum of Opponents Score)
    15-Minute Rapid Game

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