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    So Georgia is going to repeal its anti-Good Samaritan law - nothing in the Delaware law stops people providing water (that law obviously covers bribery, which was already illegal in Georgia before its new law was introduced)? And eliminate its poll tax ie, its photo id requirements - Delaware allows non-photo id? That's great! After all, it's obviously pointless just adopting some of the Delaware laws, since it's the cumulative effect that's important. Unless this is just another example of whataboutery, of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Capablanca-Fan has given up defending the actual law - his only argument now is whataboutery
    I.e. your only defense is to ignore the glaring double standards.

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    Unfortunately he (and the right-wingers he quotes) doesn't seem to realise that voting is a right guaranteed by the US Constitution, unlike flying or opening a Pay Pal account.
    Irrelevant. If Voter-ID laws are racist (arguendo), then Delta and Paypal are immorally and illegally using racist laws to discriminate against flyers and account holders. Flying and banking are not in the Constitution, but refusing service on grounds of race has been illegal since the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    I.e. your only defense is to ignore the glaring double standards.
    There are no double standards, as I've pointed out repeatedly. But even if there were, that still doesn't justify the law.

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    Irrelevant. If Voter-ID laws are racist (arguendo), then Delta and Paypal are immorally and illegally using racist laws to discriminate against flyers and account holders. Flying and banking are not in the Constitution, but refusing service on grounds of race has been illegal since the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
    Paypal doesn't require photo id. And neither does Delta - it's the TSA that usually requires photo id.

    Although I'm not sure who you are arguing with. Photo id laws, as you've conceded, have the effect of depriving people of the right to vote - which is a fundamental human right guaranteed in the US Constitution. This is the overwhelming reason why people (including myself) oppose them. The fact that the people affected are mainly black is just another good reason to oppose the laws.

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    We'll see how the voter suppression laws fare in court challenges

    Sixth District of the African Methodist Episcopal Church v. Kemp

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